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Post by helwin tins on Aug 17, 2010 23:54:54 GMT
the point is that you can't claim to be neurodiverse and disabled, you're either one or the other, and if you're neurodiverse you don't get to claim the benefits of being labelled as disabled and vice verse.
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Post by sarah on Aug 18, 2010 0:06:22 GMT
so, if someone is missing an arm but also has aspbergers or something similar, they've got to decide between the two!?
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:08:40 GMT
what?
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Post by jay on Aug 18, 2010 0:09:54 GMT
haha at saying what on a forum.
erm, topic?
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Aug 18, 2010 0:09:57 GMT
the point is that you can't claim to be neurodiverse and disabled. Well it's a good job I haven't done that then isn't it? Please actually read my posts before commenting on them. I said 1) neurotypical prejudice and ignorence can be disabling to a person with aspergers. Misogyny can be disabling to females in some cultures and situations. Being female is not a disablity. 2) solidarity with the disabled community due to common experience does not equal disabilty.
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Post by sarah on Aug 18, 2010 0:10:41 GMT
to sibz: you're saying you cannot be "neurodiverse" while disabled at the same time
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Aug 18, 2010 0:12:19 GMT
so, if someone is missing an arm but also has aspbergers or something similar, they've got to decide between the two!? haha flippant but I do consider my dyspraxia a mild disabilty (one that is suprisingly impairing sometimes), so I am a little disabled but my aspergers ain't got nutin' to do with it.
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:12:51 GMT
the point is that you can't claim to be neurodiverse and disabled. Well it's a good job I haven't done that then isn't it? you call yourself disabled all the fucking time. it's like your catchphrase.
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Post by jay on Aug 18, 2010 0:13:16 GMT
again, topic? i have nothing against the current spin-off but i think it definitely deserves its own thread.
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:15:07 GMT
to sibz: you're saying you cannot be "neurodiverse" while disabled at the same time when it comes to determining how to label an emotional/mental issue, yeah. obviously missing a limb isn't a neurological issue. +jay is right re:off-topic.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Aug 18, 2010 0:15:15 GMT
again, topic? i have nothing against the current spin-off but i think it definitely deserves its own thread. I'm the sheriff around these parts and I say let the discussion flow naturally like a "real" conversation. (lets not make this a third spin off debate, please )
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Post by irrelevant on Aug 18, 2010 0:16:37 GMT
in short, it's never good to do or say anything ever.
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Post by jay on Aug 18, 2010 0:17:01 GMT
eh, whatever, going to bed soon anyway.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Aug 18, 2010 0:19:11 GMT
Well it's a good job I haven't done that then isn't it? you call yourself disabled all the fucking time. it's like your catchphrase. Examples/direct quotes? You're really clutching at straws here. The universe will not implode if you give an inch of ground Sibz... Also as I've just said.. I am mildy disabled but my aspergers has nothing to do with it.
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Post by sarah on Aug 18, 2010 0:23:35 GMT
in short, it's never good to do or say anything ever. truer words have never been spoken
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:26:28 GMT
i can think of at least four times last time i was in bradford. and since then, because i've picked you up on it since then.
how can you call you neurological issue neurodiversity and one a disability? complete anti-logic.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Aug 18, 2010 0:38:17 GMT
i can think of at least four times last time i was in bradford. and since then, because i've picked you up on it since then. Interesting, that your examples are non specific IRL anecdotes that aren't recorded for posterity and as i just said I am mildy disabled. So really even if I did, check mate. how can you call you neurological issue neurodiversity and one a disability? complete anti-logic. Because they're totally different things. The autistic mind has both pros and cons when compared to the neurotypical one, I don't consider something that is partially a benefit a disablity. I can't think of any positive aspects to having dyspraxia. It's just a pain in the arse. I certainly don't believe that neurological disablity doesn't exist.
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:42:54 GMT
yeah, sure. the fact that i'm actually trying to work right now and therefore am not willing to find you a specific example of you saying something you say all the time totally means you win.
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Post by sarah on Aug 18, 2010 0:44:24 GMT
MORE OFF TOPIC IM A REBEL LOL but sibz we all know you think this forum is shit now, so why do you bother with it? seems like a waste of time, you know that when you come here it'll be boring and shit and someone will have posted something you disagree with, genuinely curious as to why you would deliberately come here when you know it'll stress you out?
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Post by helwin tins on Aug 18, 2010 0:59:35 GMT
meh, mainly because my browser opens all my bookmarks. i only read two threads or so each day or whatever though. besides which, all i ever really do on here anymore is make a brief post, or picture so what's the big fucking deal if i don't find it the most exciting place in the world? i was bitching on chatzy last night because i had friends there, but apparently something i created in the first fucking place is now too cliquey for me to put forward an opinion that i know people there agreed with.
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