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Mar 6, 2010 9:35:56 GMT
Post by mynameisHughGrant on Mar 6, 2010 9:35:56 GMT
I know, I know, but usually that's for feeling awkward as a kind of shield between them ad a situation than when tey're channeling R34L EM0SHUNZ. Unless every character was a bit like me and felt awkward in most situations I need to stop dissing skins every time I post here.
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Mar 7, 2010 2:14:26 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 7, 2010 2:14:26 GMT
"I need to stop dissing skins every time I post here."
..and I need to stop defending it so vigerously haha.. don't worry though the thought of judging someone (at all) for dissing a teen drama is as absurd as judging someone for WATCHING a teen drama.
I wish I wasn't so associated with Skins of all things, my mate Patrick "oh god Skins, I use to watch that when I was like... 15" Dowson cornered me in the pub tonight and insisted I talk about it for about half an hour.. "Josh, last year was about Naomi Campbell this year is all about Katie fucking Fitch! Did you know the two lasses who play the twins are John Prescott's nieces?"
No, what I'm on about? That was the highlight of my night.
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Mar 9, 2010 10:21:57 GMT
Post by lastgoodbye on Mar 9, 2010 10:21:57 GMT
"Did you know the two lasses who play the twins are John Prescott's nieces?" Awesome!
Also, Owen Pallett doesn't play the uke, but if JJ knows what's good for him, he will still be a fan.
I didn't like this episode that much. It was okay, but I found it predictable (JJ meets pretty girl, likes her, asks her on a date in an akward way, they go on a date, his issues get in the way, eventually they overcome it. Apart from the fact she had a baby, but that didn't really add much to the storyline).
The episode was stil watchable though. Predictably I enjoyed the bits with JJ and Thomas at the beginning of the episode. The whole thing with Cook living in JJ's room on his own for two days and drinking his own piss was ridiculous.
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Mar 9, 2010 11:47:25 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 9, 2010 11:47:25 GMT
Cook living in JJ's room on his own for two days and drinking his own piss If I wrote Skins you just know this is exactly the sort of thing I'd put in . You'd like Patrick Florence, he talks about politics a lot, my favourite quote from him during a political debate was "I might not know the facts but I know.... *long pause* the morals!" He also mentions Skins in his song "Ghost World", he always grins directly at me on that line.. booo-yyaahhh.
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Mar 11, 2010 23:05:30 GMT
Post by Rhiflect on Mar 11, 2010 23:05:30 GMT
wat
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Mar 11, 2010 23:05:42 GMT
Post by Jazzy Jeff on Mar 11, 2010 23:05:42 GMT
Did they just kill Freddie? Because that would make me respect the writers quite a lot more. Also, nice use of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds at the end there. And I complained about lack of good music in Skins...
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Mar 11, 2010 23:22:06 GMT
Post by Rhiflect on Mar 11, 2010 23:22:06 GMT
Okay, i was quite liking the episode up until that point. Even Effy's acting voice wasn't getting on my nerves too much! But then they ruined everything with the most bizarre, utterly cliche, ridiculous ending ever! Okay, it wasn't predictable and was relatively amusing (the whole twisted psychiatrist thing, not the actual death), but, like, WHAT?
Interesting to see how it pans out..
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Mar 11, 2010 23:44:54 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 11, 2010 23:44:54 GMT
Oh dear! Cautionary tale for all budding television writers, a whole episode, even a whole season's worth of good work can be thrown away with one scene, one plot twist if it's ball-witheringly STUPID enough.
I thought this episode was an admirably subtle sequel to the very "direct" first episode regarding Effy's mental health problems. The destructiveness of John Foster's "reprogramming" methods were developed quite organically, they refrained from beating you around the head with it (lololol no pun intended.. much) like you might expect them too. I liked using Tony's accident at the end of S1 as a central plot device. I loved the scene where Effy lost her cuddly giraffe, weirdly heartbreaking, I remember being totally distraught JUST like that when I lost my imaginatively named pink teddy bear "Pink" when I was a toddler and seeing that from a young adult.. and we have Cook, the boy who'll bitch-slap you one second and heroically save you the next and...
In the words of the 10th Doctor.. What? What?! WHAT?!? Ok the guy who's questionable practices were "subtly" developed earlier on turns into a CACKLING HOMICIDAL VILLAIN?! I can't believe I'm actually complaining about Freddie getting his head stoved in with a baseball bat I really can't but.. well you know how much of a Skins cheerleader I am, when I even I think we've had a shark jump moment..
I just don't watch Skins for murder, suicide/drug conspiracies etc..
Also looks like the finale is going to be pretty Freffy-centric which is baffling. I'd assumed it would be pretty Naomily-centric.. being as Naomi doesn't get her own episode this year and and Naomily was the most popular bit of series 3, and Freffy was one of the things the consensus was pretty negative about. SO much to tie up in this generation's final episode.. hmm. Being reduced to eight episodes hasn't done the writers any favours. Pandora has been pretty much an extra at best etc (not that I was ever a fan of her).
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Mar 12, 2010 0:03:44 GMT
Post by Rhiflect on Mar 12, 2010 0:03:44 GMT
I thought the same with everything, basically! Although i'm leaning towards the Tony thing just partly being like 'ohhh shite, we'd better link these series' up!' from the writers. Also, this series has made me love Cook. I didn't really like him before! I still so the 'Pato the teddy' thing when I lose my teddy :/
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Mar 13, 2010 0:59:31 GMT
Post by mynameisHughGrant on Mar 13, 2010 0:59:31 GMT
ok ok I know i say this every episode but that head battering from the psychiatrist IS STRAIGHT OUT OF A LEVEL DRAMA. I remember we did a major stabbin' in ours. BUT 10 points to gryffindor for Nick Cave, and that was a good bit of Cook there.
offtopic interesting skins fact: a boy who went to my sixth form the year below me was almost Freddy. Apparently he's going to be playing Boy George in some BBC drama now. Damn these beautiful people.
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Mar 13, 2010 11:21:10 GMT
Post by choolin firth on Mar 13, 2010 11:21:10 GMT
Who's that?
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Mar 13, 2010 11:46:00 GMT
Post by mynameisHughGrant on Mar 13, 2010 11:46:00 GMT
I called him Jailbait. The one Ellie condemned for looking as if there were a team of make up artists and hair stylists in his bag at all times. DAAAAAMN.
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Mar 13, 2010 12:00:51 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 13, 2010 12:00:51 GMT
Beautiful people?! But but Boy George is a chubby dumpy man in drag?
Call it a primary school drama moment if you like Liz, even I can't defend such sub-Eastenders schlock. I know the show has always been far-fetched but that had no dramatic integrity at all, it was a contrived attempt to create a water cooler moment and claw in ratings.
Oh, and jump off the Cook bandwagon lay-deez, I recognised him as the most interesting/3D character from the kick-off. Despite him being the "villain" of S3, I still had more sympathy with him that most of them. If I am going to engage in this ludicrious panto/soap melodrama I guess it would be kinda cool to see him rip Dr Evil a new exit hole. I'll miss you Cookie!
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Mar 13, 2010 12:07:23 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 13, 2010 12:07:23 GMT
Also why wasn't there an advice line at the end? Like.. "If like Freddie you've experienced being murdered by your girlfriend's psychotic therapist call..."
Bit of an oversight considering how much of an issue that is for so many teens today.
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Mar 13, 2010 14:25:26 GMT
Post by lastgoodbye on Mar 13, 2010 14:25:26 GMT
^ Hahaha! I agree though, the ending was ridiculous. They'd already done the whole battering thing with Katie in series three, and that was about as believable as they were ever going to get with it. It reminded me of a far superior episode of One Tree Hill when Peyton's maniac stalker breaks into her house and tries to beat her and Brooke and they can't escape.. yeah. One Tree Hill is better than Skins. With the second generation finishing in a week, I can't help but feel like they have acheived nothing. Oh, and jump off the Cook bandwagon lay-deez, I recognised him as the most interesting/3D character from the kick-off. I still don't like him very much, and stand by my initial assessment that he was just a 'mean bastard character who can be nice on occasion and we are all meant to love him for this, despite his actions most of the time'. The bits with his mum and brother were an interesting plot turn. But I think the problem with this series is that they pick up interesting or shocking storylines, do them in an episode and they we never hear anything of them ever again.
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Mar 13, 2010 14:45:00 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 13, 2010 14:45:00 GMT
^ I think as individual episodes, Cook, Katie and JJ's were "reutrn to form" levels of good, take them over anything from series 3.. hell even Freddie or Emily's episode but the overall continuity and over arching plots and concepts has been a bloody mess. As if the episodes have been wrote individually and the writers haven't bothered to communicate with each other and taken the contents of other episodes into consideration. At least series 3 made sense and had season length arcs with some degree of direction.
Cook's episode was a wonderful example of real, subtle character devlopment in a 40 mintue piece of TV. Then they just casually threw all the work done away with the stupid jailbreak storyline a few eps along.
I have no idea how the finale is going to tie up the 9789127589237589 dangling plot threads they've left, I'd like to see a redemptive ending (quality wise) but I'm not holding my breath. So disapointed! Re-invested myself in the show this series and now it feels like my football team has been relegated or something and I've got a supporter of rival Teen Premeriship contenders One Tree Hill FC heckling me down the pub, haha.
The show's also been recommissioned for a 5/6 season with a third cast.. I have mixed feelings. Part of me wants the show put out of its misery so the memory and reputation of series 1/2 (probably my favourite bits of telly ever) isn't tarnished any further.
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Mar 13, 2010 14:49:34 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 13, 2010 14:49:34 GMT
Oh and I don't like Cook cos he think he's a nice person, though as you say he can be sometimes. I like him becuase he's a complex, charismatic and compelling character. He's had moments of cuntishness and moments of being a total hero. Like the rest of us.. but whats important to me is he seems like a full and believeable human being with a psychology you can really delve into.
Like for me Cassie and Tony are the most interesting 1st generation characters and they both behaved heinously at times. It's interesting how the "nice" stable characters like Jal or Thomas are rarely anyone's favourite.
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Mar 13, 2010 17:40:52 GMT
Post by Rhiflect on Mar 13, 2010 17:40:52 GMT
^ Nice post there, Josh! Haha, why did you re-quote yourself?
It's obvious that Freddie's sister will be the turning point into the 5/6 series. God knows what they'll go down in that one, there's only so many 'controversial' issues they can cover..
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Mar 13, 2010 17:52:58 GMT
Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 13, 2010 17:52:58 GMT
Clicking on "quote" instead of "modify" is the bane of my bloody life. Freddie's sister is meant to be older than him? I wish the link could be James Fitch but he's only 13, bah. Then we'd get to keep Daddy Fitch as well There's a pretty easy way to make the next generation awesome and save the show though. Rearrange these letters into the correct order! "Josh" "write" "Wynne" "let" "some of it".
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Mar 13, 2010 19:04:56 GMT
Post by Rhiflect on Mar 13, 2010 19:04:56 GMT
That would be a WYNNE/WYNNE situation! Me so funi. But oh, I thought she was younger! Oh well. Looks like we'll have a fresh bunch of twats then!
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