trixie
Libertine
stay blind to my future and fate
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Post by trixie on Oct 13, 2009 21:17:41 GMT
I don't know,I'm not sure about it...as someone else said,it's catchy but nothing special.
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Post by Xteenuh on Oct 13, 2009 23:22:25 GMT
It's kind of like the Magic Position took a trip down Lady Gaga Lane. I don't think this a bad thing. I like it, it's fun, but I don't love it - right now I think Magic Position is a better pop song, but who knows what'll change in the recorded version. I'm sure it will probably sound amazing. I'm not too crazy about what I can make out of the lyrics either...
Weird, because I think Armistice has beautiful lyrics. And is on the whole other side of the globe musically. This + that on the same album would be totally crazy but I'd love it.
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Post by lovesapony on Oct 13, 2009 23:37:39 GMT
If the recorded version includes AutoTune, i may refuse to buy the album. I won't, obviously. But I won't be a happy bunny. HAHAHA SOMEBODY DO A PATRICK WOLF / KANYE WEST BABY THING. ? adult version
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Post by newslang on Oct 14, 2009 1:06:48 GMT
hahahaha I can't decide if the adult kanye/patrick is attractive or not. I'm leaning towards yes? I listened to the song. Generally I really like it! Improved towards the end with the violin bits. I think if he's headed in the dance (90s, definitely*) direction he should go all out and do a full dance record. *And bring the return of Electric Circus Total coincedence but the track in this video has a violin bit at the end too
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Post by the kalashnikov kid on Oct 14, 2009 12:40:35 GMT
come on patrick do a jazz album
we know you can do it
you like chet baker don't you, i like chet baker too, do some cool westcoast jazz but mix it with modern styles
DO IT PATRICK I WILL ACTUALLY BUY IT
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Post by mynameisHughGrant on Oct 14, 2009 18:29:40 GMT
Not if it was on spotify you wouldn't.
This is definitely in Mika territory. This is definitely something Mika might do better.
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Edd Hall
Apparition
I am the bane of my existance
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Post by Edd Hall on Oct 14, 2009 21:13:31 GMT
I'm really not sure about it. REALLY not sure. The 'dance' bit just sounds really really really generic to me. Obviously the violin breakdown bit is awesome, but I think it's either going to be a grower or it's just going to go to the bottom of the pile of Wolf songs along with Battle..You saved me some time by writing that for me. Right now I feel like it's Patrick Wolf repeating some lines over and over, over some standardized house/disco/pop song template. Not really bad, but just not interesting or clever at all. /t i completely agree with you (apart from the batchelor comment, its not his best (possibly even his worst) but it has some cracking songs in it) this is just a generic pop song. I understand the critics you're making on the new song. If I weren't there, I'd say it's not great but it really was. The video's sound isn't great at all and the composition is way more complicated that we can hear now, it surely is a hit, but it's really really good, I've never seen an audience crazy like that during the song... So don't forget that the first time he's playing it, that we're hearing it live first and that it won't be the same thing in the conqueror... Still, i love it i really hope you're right, im going to reserve complete judgement til the album version... I hope he does not turn into a male version of La Roux If this happens i will actually cry... get back to wandering cliffs. And this, is possibly the most true thing i have read in a long long time, he needs to go back to the days of ukelele, piano and violin driven folktronica, wind in the wires days (with some magic position and lycantropy thrown in there). And the same goes for his hair and clothes. Dont get me wrong, some of the outfits are fantastic, but i dont like the long hair. Also the vocal mic he uses, that side of the head milarky (sp?); it just makes him look like a generic pop star, i love him using the handheld SM-58's rant/quoting storm over
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Post by cookegmp on Oct 15, 2009 2:52:10 GMT
I find the critiques of this track fascinating.
I clearly remember the first time I heard Patrick Wolf. I had read the review of Lycanthropy on Pitchfork and I snagged the album off of Soulseek to give it a quick listen. Wolf Song comes on and I give it about 30 seconds and skip to the next track. A few moments into Bloodbeat I stop because it was NOTHING like the first track. Back to Wolf Song and I listen all the way through. It's a great folk track, then it fuzzes into static and Bloodbeat comes on. To The Lighthouse comes on and it's a mix of the two previous styles. I immediately buy every single thing he's selling on his website and start calling everyone I know who loves music and say "You'll never believe what this kid is doing with a laptop!"
Patrick is my only musical hero who has never failed me. I know that every album I buy of his is going to suprise me, and be as varied as my own tastes in music. I can load up my iPod with Folk, and IDM and Electro and Classical and Rock and Hip Hop... or I can put in a Patrick Wolf album.
Wild Life is a great electro pop song, and the masses may love it. It's there because he loves MUSIC. All music, not just one particular genre or style. Being a rabid fan since Lycanthropy when I heard the news of Patrick being signed to Universal I could have been upset that my indie wonder was selling out, but I was excited! I then hear that it's an album of love pop songs. I'm along for the ride.
Some of the hipsters here need to get off of their damned high horses and enjoy it for what it is. Patrick will always be their wandering troubadour but somedays he may just wake up and want to be a lanky male Kylie Minogue. And it's that eclectic output that makes me adore his music.
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Post by Zurich80 on Oct 15, 2009 9:24:13 GMT
For the record, Patrick's been my favourite artist for the past 5 years. However, since he fell off the fence into the gay garden, I can't work out if he's turning into a Mika tribute act (with added relish) or a 'smart price Liberace'. Either way, as Zero said, he needs to get back wandering cliffs.
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Post by cometojoy on Oct 15, 2009 11:35:42 GMT
hahahahaha lovesapony and anna, thank you mightily for your efforts!!! xxxxxx
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Post by jay on Oct 15, 2009 11:37:41 GMT
cookegmp... i couldn't have worded it better myself. thanks for that and an exalt for you.
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Post by cometojoy on Oct 15, 2009 11:41:13 GMT
ditto to cookegmp! x
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Post by newslang on Oct 15, 2009 11:45:51 GMT
Yes, definitely.
(Plus I've been listening to it nearly non-stop for 2 days haha)
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Post by Sorrow By Nature on Oct 15, 2009 11:54:42 GMT
For the record, Patrick's been my favourite artist for the past 5 years. However, since he fell off the fence into the gay garden, I can't work out if he's turning into a Mika tribute act (with added relish) or a 'smart price Liberace'. Either way, as Zero said, he needs to get back wandering cliffs. You can't honestly say that The Bachelor is anywhere near the work of a Mika tribute act? Sure, it might not be Wind In The Wires part 2, but a very personal album. However, I agree with you in some ways as well. When expressing sexual preferences and craving fame become more important than making the album of your dreams, then you're selling out. Once the personal vision is compromised JUST to boost sales or popularity... Then something's wrong. But let's see what happens and judge the whole situation when we're there. But, also remember that maybe Patrick feels he's done with wandering cliffs and wants to do other things in life. Would you really be happy if he kept putting out increasingly watered-down WITW-like albums rather than trying new things? Sure, you might not like the resulting album but it might still be what Patrick wants and intends... As long as he doesn't sell out, he'll come back around your musical territories again eventually. That said, I still don't like this song much simply because it doesn't sound interesting at all. Which has more to do with it being generic, than bad. We all know our wolf has been putting out interesting and original music for a long time but the live version of this song just makes it sound like it could have been done by anyone. Hope that it's not like that on the album. /t
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Post by dee on Oct 15, 2009 14:37:09 GMT
Might be a bit too Ibiza for me. It's not a style of dance music that I tend to get on well with. I don't want him to go back to "wandering cliffs" - he's done that now - I'm just not particularly a fan of this type of music, but it's only one track. I can't really listen to Battle at home without skipping it, but it is awesome live so I'd ask the people who were there and claim that we just hear how great it is, to wait for the recorded version; being at a show with a great atmosphere and emotion can really bias, so we won't know if the song holds up until we hear it properly.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Oct 15, 2009 16:12:35 GMT
Some of the hipsters here need to get off of their damned high horses and enjoy it for what it is. Oh, bugger off. You can't go round telling people to enjoy something just because you do. And just because someone dislikes something, that doesn't mean they are a 'hipster', either. You can't particularly tell from this YouTube version, but it appears to be a not-very-interesting dance song with Patrick repeating some not-very-interesting lyrics over the top. So what if people haven't taken to it? That doesn't mean they don't like dance music, it doesn't mean they don't like pop music, it doesn't mean they don't like mainstream music, it doesn't mean they're on a 'high horse', and it doesn't mean they don't like Patrick Wolf. In conclusion, people have the right to like and dislike whatever they please. I like Mika's new song, but I'm not really feeling Patrick's new song, so there. Ps. Being a fan since Lyanthropy was first released doesn't make your opinion any more valid. You hipster.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Oct 15, 2009 16:16:42 GMT
[In reply to the thread in general] It's alright, actually. I certainly like 'dance' Patrick a good deal more than 'cringily political leather S&M' Patrick. It still sounds a bit like a seven year old wrote his lyrics for him, though. I think it's either going to be a grower or it's just going to go to the bottom of the pile of Wolf songs along with Battle.. ;D I really hope this makes it as a chart hit; I wouldn't be able to stop laughing every time it came on the radio. Hah, I concur. It would make me smile. it's negative comments like this that make me not wanna be on this forum anymore. off I am again. and ps; I'm female you **** Good, it would seem that you took a wrong turn anyway. You're looking for the Patrick Wolf Worship forum.
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Post by helwin tins on Oct 15, 2009 18:13:30 GMT
it appears to be a not-very-interesting dance song with Patrick repeating some not-very-interesting lyrics over the top. i agree with everything you said florence, particularily this. there's no problem with patrick doing something different, i love the first three albums and the routes he took on each one, it's just that all the music he's making these days seems to be, well, shit. for example, the batchelor was full of songs he's been performing for a while, some of which i loved to bits, like theseus, then on the album it has non-sensical beeps over the top and superfluous talking and is generally just a mess. that's upsetting. i reckon most of the problem comes from him NOT being on a label anymore - although there's no-one to have conform to, there's no-one to tell him that it's crap and he needs to change it -basically he's like morrissey without marr - he needs someone to reign that ego in, although i fear that horse may have bolted a long time ago. anyway i went off on a ramble there.
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Post by cmj on Oct 15, 2009 18:41:55 GMT
it appears to be a not-very-interesting dance song with Patrick repeating some not-very-interesting lyrics over the top. i agree with everything you said florence, particularily this. there's no problem with patrick doing something different, i love the first three albums and the routes he took on each one, it's just that all the music he's making these days seems to be, well, shit. for example, the batchelor was full of songs he's been performing for a while, some of which i loved to bits, like theseus, then on the album it has non-sensical beeps over the top and superfluous talking and is generally just a mess. that's upsetting. i reckon most of the problem comes from him NOT being on a label anymore - although there's no-one to have conform to, there's no-one to tell him that it's crap and he needs to change it -basically he's like morrissey without marr - he needs someone to reign that ego in, although i fear that horse may have bolted a long time ago. anyway i went off on a ramble there. It was a very good ramble.
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Post by Rhiflect on Oct 15, 2009 18:57:30 GMT
I kind of agree with both sides here, if that's not too oxymoronic. For example, i'm still not a massive fan of the song, and I think Patrick is in danger of becoming generic (and making his principles the most famous thing about him), but similarly he does take these fantastically contrasting turns with each album. He is what he is (musically) and he can't help wanting to make this music, if he feels it's what he wants to write. In the words of Britney, 'that is just so typically me'... Haha, brilliant! This whole post is fantastic, agree with it all.
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