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Post by irrelevant on Mar 23, 2010 19:40:25 GMT
hear ye, here we do the unthinkable. are you with me? heck yeah!! you'll agree with what i'm about to say. or disagree. probably to varying degrees of disagreement or agreement, of course. somewhat, strongly etc. or you may have no opinion on it whatsoever. that happens sometimes. are you ready yet? sheesh. clicking the common room and seeing the what did and didn'ts together is like witnessing a turtle slowly dying next to a bo ring rock. many have tried combating this sight, but too oft en posters are lulled into ' the way things work'; ultimately conceding and virt ually homogenizing their out put. don't like 3 or four conversations ro utinely getting tangled on one page? resent having your interesting subject matter pushed back a page by inanity? make new, special-interest threads! huzzah!!imagine clicking on a thread filled with intrigue and mystery!it is my cont ention that those long-forgotten posters from time immemorial slippe d out of our minds and into the null ethers of intellectual otherwheres or/and nowheres as a result of the monotone vox populi relentlessly venting this gaseous waste. ubiquitous hot air filtering into our heads and circling around, i theorize, is the root cause of a readers' eyes rising in their sockets like so[/u]: i'll be t here when the pillars of mund anity come crashing down. will you be buried under the rubble, or alongside me majestically posing atop i t? ?? interesting point of note: i don't think i've ever had a bad idea in my life note to all interested poindexters: thank you and good morning.
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Post by jadeface on Mar 23, 2010 19:42:59 GMT
I sort of agree with you in a way. It's hard to communicate on the what did/what didn't threads. It's mostly monologues. And I feel icky sometimes when I 'do it'. It does get a little boring. But the off topic thread is a good place for discussion, I think that serves a good purpose.
I do like new threads. I'm not sure what I'm saying. But I'm in between 'yes' and 'no' so I choose your comedy option. YES.
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Post by irrelevant on Mar 23, 2010 19:46:23 GMT
thanks for your support, member jadeface.
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Post by Rosie The Red on Mar 23, 2010 20:45:59 GMT
Yar, so I agree they are often just single posts by people, or a short conversation, or a bunch of confuzzling conversations, so I might totally say yea. On t'other hand, I know from personal experience that expressing my random happiness/issues to random other people helps, whether it gets a reply or not. And when it does, it's all the more helpful. I vote comedy option. Also, I'm scared of making my own threads. So no uber threads = less talking for me {not that that's necessarily a bad thing to you all}.
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Post by irrelevant on Mar 23, 2010 21:04:40 GMT
while i think the megathreads are a bit much, that's not to say i want people barred from talking about what's going on in their life. i think it's just the daily updates of the most monotonous things being all there is to read some days that's my issue. a point often pushed by our own LBC for many years has been that we have a bit too much of a livejournal nature, to the point of losing sight of discussion being the fundamental aspect of a messageboard.
as far as not talking as much, i think that might go away over time if you find newer threads interesting and participate. it's time to take the training wheels off and race down that sheer cliff face like so many men chasing cheese before you.
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Post by Rosie The Red on Mar 23, 2010 21:07:35 GMT
well, i suppose if there is cheese in it for me, there is no way i could possibly complain. huzzah for you!
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Post by irrelevant on Mar 23, 2010 21:11:53 GMT
it's refreshing to see you venture out of your element, rosie_.
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Post by jadeface on Mar 23, 2010 21:14:02 GMT
Rosie I dare you to make a new thread.
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Post by wakefromthysleep on Mar 23, 2010 21:23:23 GMT
Often the posts in the good day/bad day-threads are a bit like diary entries. No, I think both threads are virtual diaries. I agree to Rosie that it can help sometimes to post there, just for the fact to write it - type it. Things are getting more real when they are written. Of course everyone can do it on their own the traditional way at home. alone. My suggestion is to close both threads (yea) and open only one new for positive and negative daily experiences, keeping the virtual diary alive. oh.. I remeber that there is a thread for 'writing letters to yourself'. Maybe we could take this one instead of opening a new?
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Post by Rhiflect on Mar 23, 2010 22:26:05 GMT
NO NO NO! I hate change. The threads are a constant here, and losing them would be like losing a (albeit minor) limb! Where else can I be mundane? Where else can i sober my own irrational thoughts by reading of others' happiness (and on occasion, sadness)? I love them like a pet But new threads are a good idea!
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Post by jay on Mar 24, 2010 0:44:04 GMT
i am not pumped.
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Post by helwin tins on Mar 24, 2010 1:31:21 GMT
i vote yes, with the condition joeb makes a new thread at least every three days. i am pumped, and yes, my mind went to many hilarious jokes i could have made there, but i'll leave that for josh. interesting point of note: i don't think i've ever had a bad idea in my life this is not true.
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Post by izzyplastic on Mar 24, 2010 1:38:43 GMT
i concur wholeheartedly. speaking as a relatively new poster, it's the constant sight of these what did threads that puts me off. sometimes i'll log in and see just those two, the off topic and occasionally the pictures thread as the sole threads with new posts. to be honest, given the titles of these threads, the whole forum could easily be condensed down into these three or four threads.
news about patrick could be put into the what made your day thread. pretty much anything from this section can go into the off topic thread. and so on...
don't get me wrong, i've no problem with long threads. (hell, i was part of a forum that had one that went on for over 1000 pages . with no "last post" button available on the forum! but it still managed to have regular, new and entertaining threads started) but when they kill off the potential for any new activity (threads) on the forum, they're a problem. how many times have people thought about making a new thread and then just dumping it into the off topic thread?
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 24, 2010 6:14:50 GMT
I obviously vote ... YES. Also coming little more than a day after America's historic health care reforms the time has come for CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.
As the pioneer of this line of thought (the Jesse Jackson to Joeb's Obama perhaps) I don't enjoy Wolfboard unless there's a specific general interest discussion thread I can get my teeth into (like the bloody Skins thread lately) it's something I check out of habit, and by no means should that be seen as putting down the forum as a whole, or anyone who enjoys how it is right now. It isn't a bad forum, it just isn't really the forum for me for the most part (despite my lengthy history here).
I guess what bugs me about the megathread dominance is how it represents the fragmented, self absorbed internet culture that is also clearly apparent with Twitter, facebook etc. I can understand the appeal of venting, but for the most part it's a one way pleasure. For instance, I understand it can be damn frustrating to be stuck in traffic but I have no idea why you'd use the unique "voice" the internet gives us to post that publically unless you go into some depth to make the matter relatable or pharse it in a way that's entertaining for others. I guess my problem is not the more indepth "sharing" of personal experience but the more banal monosyllabic mudanties. It's irrational but whenever I read the deluge of tweets you always get at a certain time of the year along the lines of "grrr essay" I just want to unleash some fracking pimp slaps.
The lack of interest in discussion about things outside people's direct sphere of daily experience on here has always sorta stunned me. The weirdest being how unintrested people have always been in discussing music here, ON A MUSIC FORUM. I think (prepares for the shitstorm) it might be something to do with different "norms" of female/male communication perhaps. I have observed in my subjective experience (offline and otherwise) that my female friends have always been more into talking about what's going on in there lives, and male friend more in talking in more depth about outer interests. That's not a general rule, and even in my limited experience there's been exceptions but it's somethign I've always taken for granted with this forum being obviously very female dominated. So my point isn't that other people's communciation is less vaild or "bad" it's just different to my personal tastes and areas of interest. The stuff on what did/didn't.. well I'd only care about 99% of that stuff if it came from my very close friends, from strangers it means nothing to me.
But yes.. I'm babbling.. I fully support Joeb's idea (Jay doesn't, so it's pretty.. arf arf irrevelant I guess) this forum is obviously going to die out as one generation of fans move on from Patrick Wolf and regular internet chattery into jobs, careers and long term realtionships, and then another.. till eventually Patrick's career quiets or flat-lines and there's no more hook to draw new people in. Given Patrick blowing his opportunity at a progression into the mainstream and in my opinion artistically declining I see this happening sooner than later, so we might as well have some fun in the last days of Wolfboardia. TEAR DOWN THE MEGATHREADS! LIBERATE US FROM LIVEJOURNAL!
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Post by irrelevant on Mar 24, 2010 8:15:47 GMT
good of you to turn out, josh. you haven't lost your touch. sad to think it's taken this long for what you've been fighting for to appear within reach. we've really grown old already. maybe the next petition can be for some kind of socialist posting pension program. let us refrain from dwelling on insignificant minutiae while on the cusp -- with bated breath -- of such a momentous, admin-legacy-defining [ ] occasion. but really, you don't think i feel that way? damn, pretty deluded of you. damn really, shit, damn, cripes, damn.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Mar 24, 2010 8:40:05 GMT
Argh, I totally agree. Often I read the 'what did/didn't' threads and all the stuff that people are doing, and it makes me feel obliged to drag up an anecdote from my day which is actually not entertaining or interesting in any way. In fact in the last year or two since I got facebook I do this much less, because I just put it on FB instead (especially since I've got a load of wolfies on there anyway), which proves Josh’s point about boring internet self indulgence. HOWEVER, we do have a cosy, people-being-nice-to-eachother vibe on the forum and I wouldn't want this to be lost. So I think an experimental closure of the two biggest threads (and the Off-topic thread if you must, but I started that and feel slightly protective over it ) would be beneficial. We can always bring them back, and Jay can just hide them and then unhide them if we want them back, so we don't lose the million-page legacy, no? Discussion threads are much more interesting, and also a more effective way of getting to know one other than 'I have a new cat' 'I want a cup of tea' 'I hate this essay' 'OH me too!'. So hopefully it would bring us closer together rather than further apart Ps. Josh I refuse to believe we are in the last days of the 'board. I will fight til the death to keep it alive! Although, all I've ever done is start useless "Awh, make more threads everyone! Stop moaning!"-style threads when this place hits a lull. Joeb has actually come up with a helpful idea now and I reckon we should try it. Maybe move the Off-topic thread back to the Community room, too, I swear that’s where it started, and that's where the irrelevant chatter belongs, right?
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 24, 2010 8:56:11 GMT
This would only work if people ACTUALLY make the effort to make new threads though! If it doesn't it'll die on its arse. It seems good ideas (like the film club) start out strong then fizzle out though lack of effort (and who's fault is THAT Mr Wynne?!) haha.
I've got a new thread I'll post later when I'm not needing to get into the shower+ go for a haircut.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Mar 24, 2010 8:59:48 GMT
Have a nice haircut! I'm going to start a multiple-choice vote thread later, like "What topics would you like discussed more in new threads? Music, politics, cake etc", but first I have to go to school so I'll do it when I get back.
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Post by jay on Mar 24, 2010 11:05:37 GMT
I fully support Joeb's idea (Jay doesn't, so it's pretty.. arf arf irrevelant I guess) i was merely answering the question posed in joeb's original post where he'd left a ~sekrit message~. i see no reason to lock the megathreads because people use them, but i'm all for people starting new threads, cos i enjoy that kind of thing (see: the drugs thread, which was a lot of fun until it died for some reason). basically i agree wholeheartedly with what rhi said up there. there's nothing stopping anyone from starting whatever thread they like, as far as i know. go for it, talk about whatever you want, but flogging this dead horse of 'oh the wolfboard has gone down the shitter' isn't going to get anyone anywhere unless you actually do something about it. eta: sorry, just read florence's post. i can move the threads in question to the community room, no problem. i'm just still not convinced they need to go entirely. some people like coming on here and having a vent or sharing a nice moment or blurting a random thought. my OCPD would kick in and make me uncomfortable if they created a new thread every single time they wanted to do that.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Mar 24, 2010 11:11:45 GMT
Jay, my comment was refering to the fact you're the HBIC of Wolfy now Bushman has pissed off leaving you the keys. It was a logistic statement of fact, not a dig.
The support for Joeb's idea seems pretty "across the board" to just out and out dismiss and ignore though.
ps I saw the secret message but I haven't worked it out yet cos I'm a dyslexic spazz who can't read or seperate words without spaces, anyone wanna share?
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