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Post by sophiecatherine on Nov 11, 2007 15:10:35 GMT
So, what was up with tonights show? It started off ok, although it was rather aggressive up the front, so my friend and i headed up the back where there was a better view, but what a crap show. As much as i am a Patrick fan, or rather a fan of his music, i was not impressed when he fell over and exclaimed 'fuck this' before leaving his band to extend, and then end the song. After 5 mins of not much, he returned, costume hidden beneath a grey hoodie, hood up, with a long winded story of gypsies and marsh land, and sang 'thistle'. The band returned for a couple of songs before what seemed to be the end of the show. I noticed quite a few people left too. After waiting another ten minutes, he re-surfaces, and gradually builds up the pace and tempo a bit, although his heart was clearly not in it, before wrapping up in just under an hour, including his 'breaks'. Those tickets weren't cheap, and i don't pay that (student budget) money on shit performances and showman ship like that. Sorry Patrick but whatever drug you were clearly on, you should have just toughened the f**k up.
Has anyone else experienced this with him? I didn't see him at Manchester lane in June, but i heard wonderful reports that he played for about 2 and a half hours, was friendly and happy, and put on a great show. It was crap too as it was my birthday treat.
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Post by tiffin on Nov 11, 2007 15:22:02 GMT
He was lovely and charming in Brisbane, both performing and when I bumped into him in the Valley.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Nov 11, 2007 16:45:07 GMT
I hope this doesn't sound like an awful, fangirlish Patrick-can-do-no-wrong style defence, but I'm thinking it must be tough being on tour and having to do a show every evening, 'cos lets face it, everyone has off days when they just don't feel up to it. Even so, you paid money for those tickets and you were let down, and I feel endlessly bad for you. But I doubt there was any specific reason why it was so bad. Maybe there will be a vaguely apologetic blog from him about it somewhen.
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Post by Marcus on Nov 11, 2007 18:36:00 GMT
Patrick was just about passable at Electric Picnic.
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Post by northina on Nov 11, 2007 22:28:04 GMT
i had LOTS of fun... i thought his heart went right into it towards the end.
the tantrum *was* bullshit but he picked it up after he played lots of songs and then went off and then played THREE in the encore.
he said we were the best and we believed him!!!
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Post by madfunkyboi on Nov 12, 2007 0:36:18 GMT
He did say we were the best, but his tantrum seemed a little "Diva-esque", i agree that it kinda ruined the show a little and through-out the show he just seemed tired and a little over it... I believe he actually said "My Name is Tristan, And i am over this fucking shit" knocked over his keyboard and through his violin before smashing a glass (i was up the front and me and a friend were showered in glass - i was annoyed about this)... The band were left in confusion, his crew then signalled for them to stop playing and pop off stage, the view of backstage that i could see, it seemed he was really upset, 2 guys were talking him around and he was yelling and clearly distraught about something...
Being that he was doing back-to-back-to-back shows i could kinda understand if he was a little moody or tired, its gotta be tough...
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Post by Elderberry Fucking Fanta on Nov 12, 2007 3:21:00 GMT
So, what was up with tonights show? It started off ok, although it was rather aggressive up the front, so my friend and i headed up the back where there was a better view, but what a crap show. As much as i am a Patrick fan, or rather a fan of his music, i was not impressed when he fell over and exclaimed 'fuck this' before leaving his band to extend, and then end the song. After 5 mins of not much, he returned, costume hidden beneath a grey hoodie, hood up, with a long winded story of gypsies and marsh land, and sang 'thistle'. The band returned for a couple of songs before what seemed to be the end of the show. I noticed quite a few people left too. After waiting another ten minutes, he re-surfaces, and gradually builds up the pace and tempo a bit, although his heart was clearly not in it, before wrapping up in just under an hour, including his 'breaks'. Those tickets weren't cheap, and i don't pay that (student budget) money on shit performances and showman ship like that. Sorry Patrick but whatever drug you were clearly on, you should have just toughened the f**k up. First off, you seem to have missed part of the show. 'Thickets', the song he played after a quite personal story about gypsies and marshland, was the start of the encore. Between falling over and getting off stage during Tristan and then the encore, he played several songs. Admittedly, one of them was a version of Paris that didn't even reach the chorus, but apparently something was not right. It was a bit of a sad evening, but more due to Patrick apparently feeling shit than to him not caring about the performance. Speculative drug talk is just a stupid way of announcing your disappointment. I can admit that I wasn't 100% pleased either, but there were enough moments to keep me happy, still. Oh, and thanks to the awesome people I met in the line outside!
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Post by lltoastll on Nov 12, 2007 4:13:55 GMT
Awww that makes me sad. It was probably an off night for him and all the touring must be taking it's toll on him. I know that Patrick gets a lot of his energy from the crowd so maybe the crowd wasn't 100% there for him. I know it sounds like I'm making excuses for him. But no one is perfect, and touring is difficult.
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Post by stationtostation on Nov 12, 2007 4:22:27 GMT
but I'm thinking it must be tough being on tour and having to do a show every evening. Eh? But thats what musicians do it order to keep themselves, feed, sheltered and clothed other than a choice few.. yes I'm sure it is very tough at times (as well as about tens times more fun, expressive and ego boosting that 80% of mare mortals jobs) I mean to use myself as an example its like saying, oh it must be tough for care assistants to actually care for people. Yes it is, but we've choose to do this job knowing the pros and cons we will come up against and I would NEVER expect someone from where I work to throw a strop shout "fuck it" and leave someone who was depending on them hanging for five minutes or more.. Okay okay, this comparison to the sweat and grim of the "mundane" workplace might be out of place. After all believe it or not I like STARS thats one of the reasons I feel for Patrick in the first place musically speaking. Charisma, personality and a sense of otherworldly presence can uplift a song as much as musical elements. A Star is someone who uplifts and inspires you but Patrick isn't being a star at the moment. Patrick is being a Diva and no one likes a Diva but a handful of particularly stereotypical gay men. Patrick isn't famous enough, big enough or important enough in the wider world to get away with this petulant child shit he keeps pulling. I'm amazed by the tolerance and patience of the very fan base he tired to semi blame for pushing him towards quitting music.. If Patrick doesn't want to do it he should just go and chill under a tree with his Uke for a bit.
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Post by madfunkyboi on Nov 12, 2007 4:35:15 GMT
Oh, and thanks to the awesome people I met in the line outside! Haha not sure if i met you in the que outside but i met some pretty awesome people in the cue as well and inside against the stage 2 guys i was chatting too were pretty cool, one of them said in front of his girlfriend he would bottom for Patrick!! it as funny!
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 7:54:05 GMT
hey. I was at the corner yesterday - it was awesome!!!! and personally, I think his 'diva outburst' was planned. I was watching the band and his sister winked at the other guys because the audience took it so seriously. I think he did it on purpose to make the show more extravagant and exciting. I'm glad we brought all that glitter and confetti - it made it so much better
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 7:58:31 GMT
ps. the people in the queue were too cool. my friend and I were there at 6PM !! lol
did anyone here take pictures last night? because I took some pictures (without flash though, they SUCK!) and I might post them here if I figure out how :S
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Post by outlawtheowl on Nov 12, 2007 8:19:35 GMT
Hello friends from the queue. I was the one in the green peter pan hat.
Hmm.. well I still feel sad about the whole show, especially in comparison to Sydney. It was like polar opposites. As soon as he came on stage he just didn't feel up to it and he was quite distant. And then the first thing he said to the crowd was something like "can you please not blow bubbles because it wrecks the instruments" which I suppose is a fair thing to say but at Sydney everyone was blowing them and he was fine. And then the outburst wasn't totally unexpected, he seemed to get more aggressive and then BAM!
And then afterwards when he came back out he looked as though he had been crying and was just rushing through the songs. He did make up for it towards the end after Thickets etc, but it was still a sad night because he seemed so sad.
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 9:32:22 GMT
^^^^ I see what you mean. I mean I didn't go to the Sydney show so I can't compare.
what do you think is his problem? and I mean that sincerely. do you think hes just tired is it something more sinister?
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Post by lazy poet on Nov 12, 2007 9:36:51 GMT
does it really matter whether it's just tiredness or a more serious matter ? i know we all(well maybe not all) feel sorry for patrick and are slightly worried about his mood at the show, but i'm sure he would prefer to sort it out himself and somehow i don't think it'll help if people start pondering about it on the tinternet. that's how rumours can start
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 9:37:50 GMT
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 9:39:31 GMT
does it really matter whether it's just tiredness or a more serious matter ? i know we all(well maybe not all) feel sorry for patrick and are slightly worried about his mood at the show, but i'm sure he would prefer to sort it out himself and somehow i don't think it'll help if people start pondering about it on the tinternet. that's how rumours can start good point we should leave him alone to sort out his own problems.
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Post by kubaa on Nov 12, 2007 9:45:13 GMT
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Post by sophiecatherine on Nov 12, 2007 13:50:44 GMT
After reading everyone's opinions, i still come to the same conclusion. I don't care how tired he was, it's bas showmanship to behave like that. I agree with J.C Wynne about how he isn't famous enough to behave like a diva. His die hard fans, like the people with the glitter, and the girl in that green hat are happy, for the rest of us normal people who enjoy his music rather than obsessing over someone, it was piss poor. I know touring is tough etc, but he was clearly on something...you don't behave like that when you're tired! As for his encore, i didn't feel that he played enough songs in his set for that to be considered an encore as such. It was more like half a set, break, then the rest of it. I think i would rather see a band that have a less diva act, and just get on with the show, and the music!
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Post by lazy poet on Nov 12, 2007 14:20:46 GMT
but he was clearly on something...you don't behave like that when you're i tired! this is what i hatepeople do behave like that when they're completely sober and drug free heck, i behave like that occasionally, nothing is going right that day and you just want to quit it for a while and sit and think and calm down or sleep why must you decide that he is on drugs ? what a silly assumption
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