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Post by babynothing on Dec 1, 2007 0:05:12 GMT
well just got home from the middlesbrough gig and have to express the absolute frustration and bitter disappointment.
The city is a shit hole.
The venue should never host gigs because the staging was awful.
The doors didn't open until 45 minutes after they were scheduled to open.
The venue was full of absolute tossers and dickheads who talked throughout Patrick's set and didn't shut up even when the venue staff asked them to.
AND to top it all off after waiting around Patrick only played fo 45 minutes with no oncore! the staff said he would be back but the security started chucking everyone out.
I have never been to a worse gig. I left facing a long drive home in tears!!!
i won't be returning to middlesbrough or MIMA i hope patrick is better for everyone else!
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Post by Rebekah on Dec 1, 2007 0:07:42 GMT
:-\ Why is it that it seems like people are talking through all his shows?
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Post by newslang on Dec 1, 2007 0:11:23 GMT
Oh that sounds awful! It seems crowds aren't understanding the "acoustic" part of this tour...it's sad. Security always seem to be asshole-y at shows! Why?! Sorry you had a bad time at the show...completely understand the driving home in tears part  How was the 45 minutes you did get, though? Maybe focus on the positive? |
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Post by ayeshapokalukuu on Dec 1, 2007 0:14:31 GMT
:-\ Why is it that it seems like people are talking through all his shows? I know! how can people be that disrespectful? You could hear a pin drop in Sydney. It sucks that its these last few dates that are getting ruined. not really a very nice send off before his break! Oh well I'm sure the finales will be astounding! |
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Post by Chloë on Dec 1, 2007 0:15:57 GMT
Aww, that sucks What is with the people talking and the sets cut short on this tour? It aint cool. |
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Post by babynothing on Dec 1, 2007 0:16:44 GMT
Security wasn't assholey at all, they were doing their job. It's not the venues fault coz they aren't a music venue they're an art gallery.
It's his managements fault for booking a poor concert.
The 45 minutes we did get were spoilt by the twats in the audience.
The new songs hard times (a bit dylan-esque) and the gaze had promise tho.
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Post by Xteenuh on Dec 1, 2007 0:17:09 GMT
Goddammit, what is wrong with these crowds?!
And I hate when they can't freakin' open the doors on time, I know how that is. It sounds like the show had to be cut short because of that... that sucks!
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Post by lltoastll on Dec 1, 2007 0:19:26 GMT
That's sad.
But I know Patrick's mood depends a lot on the energy of the crowd, so if the crowd is not welcoming, I am pretty sure Patrick will not be to happy about pouring his feelings out on the stage when no one is being receptive.
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Post by babynothing on Dec 1, 2007 0:19:57 GMT
apparently the doors were late opening coz of "technical difficulties" but doesn't mean we need to wait 30-40 minutes between dev finishing and Patrick starting.
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Post by lltoastll on Dec 1, 2007 0:23:48 GMT
It's his managements fault for booking a poor concert. I don't think it was the managements fault. You pay for a show and you should be more respectful of the musician on stage. Not unless people paid to talk then... |
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Post by babynothing on Dec 1, 2007 0:27:21 GMT
It's his managements fault for booking a poor concert. I don't think it was the managements fault. You pay for a show and you should be more respectful of the musician on stage. Not unless people paid to talk then... it's the management who booked and promoted the gig. I don't blame them for the crowd talking i blame them for the worst venue ever. Only the front row could see the tiniest stage ever! The atmosphere was like Patrick was a lounge singer. I'm not trying to be mean or bitchy, i am so upset that i need to rant. |
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Post by Xteenuh on Dec 1, 2007 0:27:34 GMT
But I know Patrick's mood depends a lot on the energy of the crowd, so if the crowd is not welcoming, I am pretty sure Patrick will not be to happy about pouring his feelings out on the stage when no one is being receptive. If it was anything like that last crowd (Augustine video) then I don't blame him at all for not playing a full show/encore. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SO ANNOYING AT THINGS LIKE THIS?! Do they think it's cool or something?! JESUS. It's so unfair to everybody else. It's sad that this has happened twice now for these Patrick gigs... |
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Post by lltoastll on Dec 1, 2007 0:31:01 GMT
I don't think it was the managements fault. You pay for a show and you should be more respectful of the musician on stage. Not unless people paid to talk then... it's the management who booked and promoted the gig. I don't blame them for the crowd talking i blame them for the worst venue ever. Only the front row could see the tiniest stage ever! The atmosphere was like Patrick was a lounge singer. I'm not trying to be mean or bitchy, i am so upset that i need to rant. I've been to shows where there was no stage! I think you just expected way too much from the show. I know it happens to everyone, you build up an artist or a show but I think that's where this all stems from. Try to be positive.  |
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Post by lazy poet on Dec 1, 2007 0:32:27 GMT
it's quite sad that it's his last tour for a little while and he seemed like he was really looking forward to playing acoustically because he's done a lot of disco shows this year, but it seems like it all went a bit downhill. i hope he isn't put off doing acoustic shows because of some rude people talking at shows, they're really beautiful and i love the intimacy ah well the two finales will be fantastique i'm sure and hopefully will send him off to make his next album in a happy uplifted mood  |
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Post by sammo456 on Dec 1, 2007 6:04:53 GMT
I was incredibly surprised at the Sheffield gig, it was impeccable, something you hardly ever see around these parts nowadays.
The opening of 'Jacob's Ladder' would have been destroyed in an atmosphere like that, and whilst the gig wasn't perfect I think I got away lucky.
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Post by thornyking on Dec 1, 2007 6:17:59 GMT
Oh that sounds awful! It seems crowds aren't understanding the "acoustic" part of this tour...it's sad. That's really disappointing to hear. I think acoustic Patrick makes for a more amazing performance, and I would lovelove to be able to see it if I could. |
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Post by babynothing on Dec 1, 2007 8:44:45 GMT
I think you just expected way too much from the show. I know it happens to everyone, you build up an artist or a show but I think that's where this all stems from. Try to be positive. It wasn't just me leaving disappointed, there were murmurs from everyone as they left. I have been to thousand of gigs in the last ten years including in shops and i have seen patrick several times on this tour, i knew what to expect. I don't think it should be me defending myself here, against people who didn't experience this. I just wanted an explanation and maybe some empathy. That's where i expected too much. And i don't like being told what i think. I'm old enough to know my own mind thank you very much. |
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Post by Ed on Dec 1, 2007 8:47:21 GMT
such a shame to hear that - i think the only problem with this tour, all be it a major one, is that, more than any other tour before it it was FOR the fans, yet the turnout in the crowds in this tour has been made up of people who are not fans, who are simply "interested" at best, or just heard the magic position, or even worse went to say that they had been.
if that makes any sense...
either that, or people are just getting ruder and the whole human race is going down the shitter :S
x x
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Post by Ed on Dec 1, 2007 8:56:14 GMT
also, i think another influence on the way the crowds have turned out has been the seating/standing factor - when people are told to sit down, something must happen in our brains and we feel like we need to be quieter as well
i dont know wether MIMA was seating or standing, but all the recordings/videos of the church gigs with people sitting, seem really quiet
x x
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Post by jazz hands on Dec 1, 2007 11:52:30 GMT
also, i think another influence on the way the crowds have turned out has been the seating/standing factor - when people are told to sit down, something must happen in our brains and we feel like we need to be quieter as well i dont know wether MIMA was seating or standing, but all the recordings/videos of the church gigs with people sitting, seem really quiet x x Bristol was standing too and the crowd was amazing, really quiet and in a great mood, whilst Exeter was standing and the crowd was... mediocre. |
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