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Post by tombland on Nov 29, 2007 9:17:47 GMT
i heard it was politically incorrect to say brain storm now because it offends people with disabilities / brain damage so now we should say- mind shower or idea scatter or something like that (this might have been mentioned already, im not sure though) :)x Yup, its a technical term for the brain process that occurs during an epileptic fit
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Post by admin on Nov 29, 2007 9:25:35 GMT
Jesus. Love Music, Hate Racism; Love Strawberries, Hate Genocide. Ridiculous campaign.
Another one of those ludicrous NME articles that weedles someone into saying something that doesn't gel with their liberal, hug-everyone-except-this-fkn-chav-bastards-dole-scum-lol worldview and proceeds to blow it out of proportion. I don't think Morrissey was carrying himself particularly well, but - given that the NME have been stuck to his arse for the last four years - he probably wasn't expecting a political debate, rather having to drolly reply to questions about being the 'elder statesman of indie'.
Which, come to think of it, is a fairly agist remark, don't you think? In an increasingly ageing society, I think NME are being inflammatory and OFFENSIVE and should therefore be banned from publication forever. Especially if they're going to continue to put naked fatties on the cover.
Cheerio, Michael. xxx
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Post by tombland on Nov 29, 2007 9:27:44 GMT
Fatties are rubbish
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Post by Clare on Nov 29, 2007 12:16:09 GMT
(There was a headline in the Daily Mail or Express a few days ago that said a strain was being put on the NHS and school system because lots of Polish babies were being born. In case they hadn't noticed, I'm fairly certain lots of babies are being born to people of every nationality, why they chose to pick on the Polish is beyond me (actually it isn't, I'm well aware why they centred on them, but that's besides the point). Besides all that, surely because of our ageing population - in 40 years something like 75% of the population is going to be over 65 - calls for the births of more children? It's ridiculous - actually, immigrants are usually adults when they move to another country, and I doubt that the UK has nearly enough Polish immigrants to cause a strain on the NHS and school system. Another thing - LMHR is total bollocks. Like, "ooh, look at us, we're so cool and indie and hip, and we don't like racism! We're mostly just a bunch of white people who are usually incredibly patronising, look what we're doing to help poor black folk!" Wow, hello, you incredibly annoying campaign. No, you incredibly annoying recruiter, I don't really want to help out with this stupid campaign that, at the end of the day, will do nothing but really patronise the people of colour you're so bravely trying to liberate all by yourselves. Here's one thing - the sort of racism you're targetting? Oh please, that's generally the least of our problems. Try the hundreds of other ways that people of colour are discriminated against. Tell me how you can help me get an interview for a job, because, statistically, black and Asian folk are less likely to get job interviews than white people. We're also more likely to live in poverty, have poorer health and have poorer education - there are almost no exceptions to this. Tell me how you can fight that, LMHR? I'd love to see you try, you arrogant liberal twats.
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Post by Debs on Nov 29, 2007 19:24:11 GMT
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Post by abolishconfusion on Nov 29, 2007 19:26:14 GMT
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Post by flyinglimousines on Nov 29, 2007 20:26:06 GMT
The NME seem to be treating that Morissey interview as the biggest threat to the UK since the Daily Mail discovered emo. It's ridiculous. This is kind of off topic but I looked up that article on the internet and found this: www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400953&in_page_id=1770I thought it was a joke! "Who are the male pin-ups for young girls? Johnny Depp and the comedian Russell Brand, who is about 90 per cent Goth" "Teenage girls are frightened of manliness: they like boys who look like girls." Eh? Well, if the daily mail has printed it, it must be true! Haha, the daily mail is so ridiculous. But second most read news paper in Britain after The Sun. How depressing.... (no offence to anyone who reads those papers, I'm just not particularly fond of either) But yeah... sorry for changing the subject.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 20:43:02 GMT
Another thing - LMHR is total bollocks. Like, "ooh, look at us, we're so cool and indie and hip, and we don't like racism! We're mostly just a bunch of white people who are usually incredibly patronising, look what we're doing to help poor black folk!" Wow, hello, you incredibly annoying campaign. No, you incredibly annoying recruiter, I don't really want to help out with this stupid campaign that, at the end of the day, will do nothing but really patronise the people of colour you're so bravely trying to liberate all by yourselves. Here's one thing - the sort of racism you're targetting? Oh please, that's generally the least of our problems. Try the hundreds of other ways that people of colour are discriminated against. Tell me how you can help me get an interview for a job, because, statistically, black and Asian folk are less likely to get job interviews than white people. We're also more likely to live in poverty, have poorer health and have poorer education - there are almost no exceptions to this. Tell me how you can fight that, LMHR? I'd love to see you try, you arrogant liberal twats. Just an opportunity for a few gigs and some bands to gain cred and publicity innit?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 20:56:56 GMT
The NME seem to be treating that Morissey interview as the biggest threat to the UK since the Daily Mail discovered emo. It's ridiculous. This is kind of off topic but I looked up that article on the internet and found this: www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400953&in_page_id=1770I thought it was a joke! "Who are the male pin-ups for young girls? Johnny Depp and the comedian Russell Brand, who is about 90 per cent Goth" "Teenage girls are frightened of manliness: they like boys who look like girls." Eh? Well, if the daily mail has printed it, it must be true! Haha, the daily mail is so ridiculous. But second most read news paper in Britain after The Sun. How depressing.... (no offence to anyone who reads those papers, I'm just not particularly fond of either) But yeah... sorry for changing the subject. I wrote them a MASSIVE long rant about that 'article', and asked if they had devised a scientific method of measuring Johnny Depp and Russell Brand's goth-ness, and how they'd gone about researching how every teenage girl in the world is frightened of manliness. Being a 'goth' or 'emo' is surely to take comfort in something; the individual feels like an outsider and finds solace in a form of music, amongst other people like them. They realises it's okay to be 'weird' or whatever; if anything, it's a healthy outpouring of emotions. Besides, 'emo' has completely changed its meaning anyway, if those 'writers' actually listened to, and properly researched emo, they'd realised it's meant to apply to bands like Bright Eyes. Never let a bit of actual news get in the way of sensationalism and scaremongering eh? And I signed off the email with something along the lines of 'and tell that Littlecock fucker that he's a cu nt too.'
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Post by stationtostation on Nov 29, 2007 21:36:01 GMT
Sadly though I can't really see legally that he has much of a case, unless he's been severely misquoted and can prove it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 21:41:10 GMT
It's been taken out of context and he'd have a case based on defamation of character maybe? I don't know, I've never studied law.
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Post by stationtostation on Nov 29, 2007 21:42:31 GMT
I think he should sue Love Music Hate Racism, for claiming his views where akin to the BNP on their website that would be funny.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 21:45:22 GMT
I think he should sue Love Music Hate Racism, for claiming his views where akin to the BNP on their website that would be funny. Did they really say that? Egads. I agree with Clare, I'd like to see exactly what that patronising campaign is doing to wipe out racism, other than wheeling out Kele Okereke every few weeks as the token black rocker.
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Post by stationtostation on Nov 29, 2007 21:47:38 GMT
I find it incredibly offensive that people like Tim Westwood and Pete Doherty are fucking lecturing me on ANYTHING. Fuck LMHR.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 23:30:40 GMT
This is being discussed on Question Time now.
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Post by chloelovespw on Nov 30, 2007 13:57:16 GMT
I've never been a fan of Morissey or NME, so...
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Post by margot on Nov 30, 2007 19:13:02 GMT
Especially if they're going to continue to put naked fatties on the cover. ;D I am not a Morrissey fan. At all. But I abhor the NME even more. The whole thing is ridiculous.
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Post by catherine on Dec 1, 2007 0:25:36 GMT
I loathe the point in the NME article at which they bring up the picture they used of Morrissey with a Union Jack and implied he was using it as racist imagery; if those in power tell you enough that something is racist and must be treated with a sort of fear, then that thing WILL become associated with those connotations. Swastika? Of course he has every right to say what he wants, and I've read far far worse comments than his. Josh is right, if you start trying to censor things everyone says then it's going to make the do-gooders as bad as any person with far-right opinions. And he doesn't sound like a Tory, a Tory would be far more subtle about any racism they may have, he's being honest about what he sees, which I don't think is out and out racism, even if it was a possibly silly thing to say in the circumstances? (i.e. to such a prominent magazine.) (There was a headline in the Daily Mail or Express a few days ago that said a strain was being put on the NHS and school system because lots of Polish babies were being born. In case they hadn't noticed, I'm fairly certain lots of babies are being born to people of every nationality, why they chose to pick on the Polish is beyond me (actually it isn't, I'm well aware why they centred on them, but that's besides the point). Besides all that, surely because of our ageing population - in 40 years something like 75% of the population is going to be over 65 - calls for the births of more children? Segregation and resentment is going to be caused by anything that drives the communities further apart, like that - people point out the differences and report things like a woman being asked to take her pig ornaments out of her window to avoid offending Muslims (probably bullshit), or some council referring to the Christmas season as 'winterval', blow it all out of proportion, keep dragging it up when it has absolutely no relevance to anything, and then divisions are created.) The NME is aware of its status, it knows it can cause a proper fuss with this, it just smacks of sensationalism. They do it a lot, they interview someone then pick up on one particular point, one particular comment made by the interviewee, and kick up a massive fuss around it, and then push them into saying more. They gave him another fucking interview to make him say more and dig an even deeper hole for himself; fine, get him to explain himself, just don't turn into Bill bloody Grundy and goad him into outright saying 'I fucking hate blacks and Asians, burn them all.' i love you. his opinion is fairly reasonable, and he's hardly went and shouted 'nigger', has he? I don't really share his view, but i can see where he's coming from, and he's certainly not been 'racist'. not by a long chalk. I agree with you both. The Morrissey article in this week's NME irritated me so much that I started composing a letter to them: "Dear NME, Was it necessary to stir a tabloid-esque frenzy with the Morrissey quotation on your cover and featured interview? If your magazine is 'certain that morrissey would absolutely seek to distance himself from racist organisations', there was no need to sensationalise his comments on immigration and make them seem much worse than they appeared in the context of the interview. Anything that could potentially be interpretted as rascist or offensive was conveyed in your article in a such a way that it would be. When Morrissey said it was going to be a 'sensational scathing piece in which he would be pilloried', he was most certainly right. Another slice of shoddy journalism from the NME methinks. 'Oh dear. Not again' indeed." I'm not sure about the ending. Though no doubt if it was printed, some NME "journalist" would think up something fantastically "witty" as a reply- anything that sounds remotely intelligent would be completely wasted on them. Oh how I hate the NME....
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Post by arielle on Dec 1, 2007 1:47:43 GMT
He was misquoted in the NME. "If you travel to Germany, it's still absolutely Germany. If you travel to Sweden, it still has a Swedish identity. But travel to England and you have no idea where you are" (-what he said, from BBC) The ideas were similar, but if any one of you knows a thing about Morrissey or his opinions, you would immediately know that he's been repeatedly accused of being "racist" by the NME and that the egotistical individuals who stir up this bullshit are WRONG. He was expressing his opinions on place and identity and it was mostly directed towards his personal decision about living in america vs. returning to the UK. Reading what he actually said does not immediately make me think of race, but of culture the consistant effects of americanization. Someone always seems to be ready to jump at every chance they can possibly take to accuse Morrissey or racism without actually taking the effort to look into the matter. This is the exact reason why he refused to do anything for the NME for years, and I won't be surprised if he takes that course of action again.
Excuse my slightly run-on sentences. It happens when I get frustrated.
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Post by margot on Dec 1, 2007 17:12:28 GMT
I have nothing to add to this comment, but Dylan Moran (aka your avatar) makes me a very happy bunny. I am glad. I am supposed to say that I did not make them, and got them from this person's post - muffintop-pride.livejournal.com/11288.htmlI think the NME would print an anti-NME letter, but they would be sarcy about it. Very little use. Leave it to the courts, as it were.
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