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Post by josemutiny on Mar 7, 2007 13:53:59 GMT
my point being that whats the point of being married legally. who does it benefit?
I don't live in the UK so I highly doubt its comparable since we are really different culturally, but I'm right in saying that a marriage is a contract that is bond by law say your mine. And it was since its inception. I don't know what other people attach to a marriage but thats all a bonus.
Michael, so your saying that if a guy has sex with a girl, it being just sex with no ideas of have a kid, she gets pregnant doesn't tell the guy until its illegal to have an abortion and then tells the guy. what choices does he have? He can smooch up to her and pretend that he "loves" her or get Marjory raped by child support. Either way a guy is screwed. No matter how bad that woman is, in court she will win (a good 90% of the time).
Victoria, you live in Canada. I don't know anything about life in Canada. Here in my state, a guy takes maternity leave and he will get fired. Plus who will have to pick up the slack for those people. my thinking is why do I have to pick up your slack for a baby that isn't mine. I know its hard having a baby, thats why I don't have any and don't plan to for a long time. If your dumb enough to have a baby them take responsibility and don't make me pick up your slack.
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Post by 0-0 on Mar 7, 2007 16:04:51 GMT
I believe in happiness. What women wanted was misunderstood. They didn't mean, "Let's treat us like objects and sex items." Women should not be doing the exact same jobs as men, ie hard manual labour, which they lack the stamina for. Women merely wanted an equal ROLE in society, not to become the same as men, because the genders are NOT the same. Perhaps I'm not making this point well, and am starting to trip over my words, but I feel that women should have been recognised as nurturers and "homemakers" instead of becoming high-flying businesswomen. By all means, if you're a woman and choose career over family, then that's your choice, but I for one, have little desire to juggle a job and motherhood. I don't see what's so shameful about being a wife and a mother and a cook. It seems to me like it'd be a more fulfilling lifechoice. I'm really not phrasing myself well. *sighs*
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Post by Clare on Mar 7, 2007 19:20:20 GMT
If your dumb enough to have a baby them take responsibility and don't make me pick up your slack. Yes, having children makes you dumb, that's right.
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Post by obeseguy on Mar 7, 2007 19:39:05 GMT
my point being that whats the point of being married legally. who does it benefit? I don't live in the UK so I highly doubt its comparable since we are really different culturally, but I'm right in saying that a marriage is a contract that is bond by law say your mine. And it was since its inception. I don't know what other people attach to a marriage but thats all a bonus. If you are not married and your partner dies without writing a will, you have no right to inherit anything. Even the house you live in. If you are not married and you want to visit someone who is seriously ill (the only example I know of is someone who was admitted for psychiatric care) you have no right to see them. Etc. Marriage (and now civil partnership) makes a relationship legally recognised. So that in the eyes of the law you count as family. Wrong, maybe. But that's how it is. So for practical purposes, especially if you have children, it's generally a good idea to at least consider getting married. I'm sorry, I'm adding to the whole gang-up-on-Jose vibe going on in this thread . Jx
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Post by amy on Mar 7, 2007 22:30:46 GMT
i now really have a great disliking towards my ex boyfriend. i also don't like the fact that i'm jealous he has a new love interest. gah.
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Post by Clare on Mar 7, 2007 22:38:25 GMT
It's quite a natural thing... Despite being very unpleasant. Poor you!
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Post by josemutiny on Mar 8, 2007 0:53:45 GMT
thanks for the sympathy obese. I felt the same way. your right about the will thing but thats not what I'm on about. heres an article "Divorce - Do women win too much?" that states,
"For divorcing wives, England is now seen as by far the most generous country in Europe... But is this really justice? ... The situation has spawned a vast legal industry. We have no fewer than 11,000 solicitors specializing in marital disputes, and of the annual 150,000 divorces that go through English courts, 24,000 - or one in six - now involve couples from other countries where the disgruntled partner, usually the wife, has managed to spring the petition here in order to get the best deal."
Is that fair or ethical?
If you have children out of wedlock, you get the same rights as if you were married. (source. law.enotes.com/everyday-law-encyclopedia/unmarried-parents)did you know if at the time of having a child, you think its yours and you put down your name as father of the child, believe it... then four 4 years she tells you its not yours. The court will 70% of the time tell YOU, the innocent one, that unless you can find the real father... you are the father of the child and will continue paying and will help provide to raise the child. Yeah I know that sucks for the child and after four years you ARE the REAL father, but the women still sticks the knife in and takes your money without a single look back. thats devilish. you slave away, your baby's momma won't let you see the child and takes your money. women have it nice. moving on. I agree with ceyland that being a mother is an honorable trade.
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Post by heathcote on Mar 8, 2007 0:59:36 GMT
this is a situation where i feel it's best to walk away from an argument, as it'll never get anywhere.
But i'd like to let you know, i disagree with pretty much everything you're saying.
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Post by josemutiny on Mar 8, 2007 1:21:28 GMT
^ you have every right. what do you disagree with? I hope its nothing from the post above yours.
I said "dumb enough to have a baby" but let me correct it. If your one of the people that does not have a secure job, a place that you know is a secure home and a reliable form of transportation (here in the u.s. where I live if you don't have a car, its 10X's harder to keep a job) then don't have a child. Your an idiot and a bad parent for not providing those things. Yeah I know your parents were dirt poor and they provided everything you ever wanted. Look at them though. Look how hard they struggled. It was a stupid idea that they were ready to have a child without being prepared.
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Post by Elderberry Fucking Fanta on Mar 8, 2007 7:34:01 GMT
I said "dumb enough to have a baby" but let me correct it. If your one of the people that does not have a secure job, a place that you know is a secure home and a reliable form of transportation (here in the u.s. where I live if you don't have a car, its 10X's harder to keep a job) then don't have a child. Your an idiot and a bad parent for not providing those things. Yeah I know your parents were dirt poor and they provided everything you ever wanted. Look at them though. Look how hard they struggled. It was a stupid idea that they were ready to have a child without being prepared. Tru dat.
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Post by blake on Mar 8, 2007 8:10:22 GMT
Jose you don't half talk objectionable, moronic and boarder-line incoherent reactionary shite. But honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. So few people actually have opinions on things and you do spark interesting debate. As long as you aren't personally flaming people, i say the place would be a lot duller without you.
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Post by admin on Mar 8, 2007 14:38:41 GMT
Michael, so your saying that if a guy has sex with a girl, it being just sex with no ideas of have a kid, she gets pregnant doesn't tell the guy until its illegal to have an abortion and then tells the guy. what choices does he have? No. Nowhere in my comment did I say that. I'd suggest that if the 'guy' in question was so worried about his lady friend getting pregnant he should have been more cautious and used a condom. Cheerio, Michael. xxx
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Post by Elderberry Fucking Fanta on Mar 10, 2007 15:47:24 GMT
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Post by lltoastll on Mar 29, 2007 0:53:15 GMT
i keep lurking on my ex's flickr page BAH.
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Post by oldgregg on Mar 29, 2007 18:41:11 GMT
I have a problem. I've never fancied anyone my own age. Ever. Instead I tend to get hopeless crushes on men much much older than I am. I'm scared I'll never find anyone that lives up to my expectations. And now I've just depressed myself. Wonderful.
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Post by abolishconfusion on Sept 2, 2007 2:21:27 GMT
"My" boy, who openly likes me as much as I like him happens to be going out with one of my best friends.
Fucking ace.
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Post by bridgetbegins on Sept 2, 2007 2:27:53 GMT
I happen to have girl/girl problems
(say it in one breath) I happen to have a friend who has had a thing for me since we met over a year ago and I slept with her just less than a month ago and it was nice and wonderful and she's really in to me and I'm avoiding phone calls and wishing I just wouldn't do things like sleep with platonic friends (I've done it more than once) and...
it kind of sucks.
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Post by cheshire on Sept 2, 2007 5:51:57 GMT
I have had epic fail in about eight summer realtionships so far. The only sucessful one was completely physical and so far I am miserable, since I'm trying to ignore him at all costs. My ex boyfriend continues to email me on a daily basis, and I am ignoring that too. Today I will present a small portion of my day:
Boy: "Don't worry, there are some instances where I would go out with you." Me: "Yeah? Like when?" Boy: "Like say, the end of the world?"
EPIC FAILURE ON HIGH.
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Post by oldgregg on Sept 2, 2007 12:20:13 GMT
Boy: "Don't worry, there are some instances where I would go out with you." Me: "Yeah? Like when?" Boy: "Like say, the end of the world?" EPIC FAILURE ON HIGH. That is mean. Boys don't realise how depressing it is when they say stuff like that, even in jest. My problem of a couple of posts ago has henceforth DISAPPEARED because of last night. I need advice on how to be ladylike and entrancing so I can avoid getting tipsy and dancing to bad songs, while the boy is curled up on the sofa with someone else.
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Post by abolishconfusion on Sept 2, 2007 13:28:30 GMT
Boy: "Don't worry, there are some instances where I would go out with you." Me: "Yeah? Like when?" Boy: "Like say, the end of the world?" EPIC FAILURE ON HIGH. That is mean. Boys don't realise how depressing it is when they say stuff like that, even in jest. My problem of a couple of posts ago has henceforth DISAPPEARED because of last night. I need advice on how to be ladylike and entrancing so I can avoid getting tipsy and dancing to bad songs, while the boy is curled up on the sofa with someone else. I've never really got that one down. Tell me if you work it out.
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