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Post by verocs on Jan 11, 2009 19:30:57 GMT
would had been good but he forgot to take the banner!
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Post by helwin tins on Jan 12, 2009 17:51:59 GMT
Does anyone know how to go about buying them as gifts? When I clicked on the link that's meant to explain it it wasn't working. I'm sure it's ridiculously easy and I'm being dense..
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Post by jay on Jan 12, 2009 17:55:06 GMT
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Post by fifitxbl on Jan 12, 2009 23:21:45 GMT
I find the whole concept of Bandstocks really interesting. Thus far, I've purchased one, the usual money situation dictating that one I'm afraid... As said, I like the concept, the idea of having some sort of involvement in the helping the release, it lends itself to a feeling of relationship artist-fan wise and also between fans themselves (and I'm also a bit of a sucker when it comes to being offered extras and such like....). Hopefully it will go as well as possible and I think it will show the impact that 'normal people' can have within the music industry.
As for the reason people haven't invested, I think it's probably to do with the fact that it is a new idea, it's not how people are used to consuming music, but hopefully it will set the pace for things like this to happen in the future. In my opinion, as soon as there's evidence of success in some form, people will be more willing to support this kind of platform.
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Post by Wild Electricity on Jan 13, 2009 7:10:20 GMT
The main reason that I invested was because I felt that if I didn't, I would feel like I wasn't a part fo the album when it came out, and that I'd missed a really good opportunity. Couldn't have put it better! This is a huge part of why I'm going to invest when people outside of the UK are able to. I really like the idea of all of us helping out Patrick, and it's great that there are benefits for us as well. I'm only 15 and therefore I can't go to many gigs (not any gigs I'd like to go to, anyway xD), due to most of the venues in Melbourne being 18+ because of alcohol. I know that Patrick is an advocate for all ages gigs, and that's one of the many reasons why I admire him so much. I've been, admittedly, more upset than I should've been during this Aussie music festival season, because I've missed so many things. I feel that hopefully, by investing and helping out as much as I can, I'll be able to see my favourite musician here sometime at a gig/investor event I'm able to attend. However, I don't want to invest just for the benefits and so on...it's all about Battle being released, heh! ;D Very exciting stuff!! At the same time though, the benefits are important to me because I don't have a credit card, which means that my older sister will have to buy my stock for me. I'm sure she'd be happier to help me out by knowing exactly what having a stock means. I think that some people may not be investing because it might seem a bit daunting. When I first heard about Bandstocks I didn't understand how it worked at all, and had to spend a while reading the terms and conditions. Before I did that, I thought that I might not be able to invest because I didn't really understand what would happen to my money, whether it would be useful at all or just disappear, and so on... I hope all of what I said makes sense! Sorry for rambling, ha ha ha.
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Post by Wild Electricity on Jan 13, 2009 7:15:34 GMT
Oops, forgot to add... I agree that this should be advertised more. I've put up a banner on my Myspace and on my website...they're very cool, I like them a lot! I think it would be really awesome if we could have something like huge 'Join The Battle' badges... Maybe one could be given out with every stock!
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Post by verocs on Jan 13, 2009 12:54:30 GMT
Well he is mentioned in the news section on Gigwise every day now
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Post by jay on Jan 13, 2009 13:16:37 GMT
As for the reason people haven't invested, I think it's probably to do with the fact that it is a new idea, it's not how people are used to consuming music, but hopefully it will set the pace for things like this to happen in the future. In my opinion, as soon as there's evidence of success in some form, people will be more willing to support this kind of platform. how do you class 'success' in this context? it's difficult to promote patrick's album as it stands because it's not released yet, and the money from bandstocks is not only going towards the production and release of the album but is also for the singles, remixes, videos etc. it's just a little frustrating that there are loads of people on here, lj and myspace and all those other avenues who haven't invested... but i bet they want to hear the album. it needs to be made clear that if you want to hear the album, you'll have to invest because without the money from stocks, the album will be stuck at this stage and none of us will get to hear it.
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Post by helwin tins on Jan 13, 2009 17:46:46 GMT
I think £100,000 is somewhat of an optimistic target for someone whose main fan base consists of so many young people. I'm not sure what else he could do really, bar finding a rich friend or friendly well-intentioned company to invest.
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Post by jay on Jan 13, 2009 18:43:17 GMT
publicity should be increasing in the coming weeks, so maybe we will see a rise in investments.
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Post by dee on Jan 14, 2009 1:21:51 GMT
I bought one stock as it was all I could afford really. Though I can't pretend that I don't like the idea of being to go to investors only gigs, I pretty much did it because I want the album to come out: I can't bitch about it if I didn't get involved. Just mentioning the idea to people -non fans- the main reservations that people have is that it's a bit cheeky to "scam" money from fans who are still going to buy the album, when other artists can and have just paid for the albums themselves- isn't that the point of setting up your own label? I see the point but I'm all for an artist having an idea but not having to have loads of spare money just sitting about before they can share their idea. I find Bandstocks interesting but whether or not it will work will be interesting to see.
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Post by helwin tins on Jan 14, 2009 1:32:29 GMT
Yeah, I think it needs to be reinforced that you get a download with the bandstock.
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Post by jay on Jan 14, 2009 1:42:25 GMT
i dunno how much clearer people want it to be, really. there's already been a myspace blog stating what benefits you receive if you invest.
but this is why i made this post, to see how much clearer it really has to be. so keep 'em coming, folks.
i'll have some explanations for you all soon.
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Post by helwin tins on Jan 14, 2009 1:44:16 GMT
Well, clearly what they've done so far hasn't worked.
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Post by jay on Jan 14, 2009 1:49:33 GMT
well, let's see if some of the issues that have been raised here can't be answered.
patrick's mailing list is still being sorted out due to the transfer of web-hosting power from universal to his management, so as soon as that's finished with, there will be a bandstocks-related email going out on that.
international bandstocks has taken a while to set up due to legalities and so on, but it is in its final stages now, i hear they are just setting up the website so that non-UKers can invest.
the press and promotional aspect are a little bit more difficult, considering that money is needed for that sort of thing. it is possible that the money already raised in bandstocks will be used for upcoming photos, videos, etc, but as it stands it's quite difficult to do anything in that vein without the album being released. the timeline of this album really depends on the investments.
as for everything else, i think people will be more interested once the special events get announced.
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Post by fifitxbl on Jan 15, 2009 1:12:09 GMT
As for the reason people haven't invested, I think it's probably to do with the fact that it is a new idea, it's not how people are used to consuming music, but hopefully it will set the pace for things like this to happen in the future. In my opinion, as soon as there's evidence of success in some form, people will be more willing to support this kind of platform. how do you class 'success' in this context? By success, I don't necessarily mean commercial success, just some evidence of an actual product being released through the platform. From what I've seen on the website, up to now, nothing has been released. Under the 'explore' tab, there are only bands which are being voted for, and invested in at the moment, nothing, as of yet, has come to fruition. The lack of evidence maybe doesn't give people confidence in the system?
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Post by jay on Jan 15, 2009 1:39:59 GMT
ah, thank you for elaborating!
i don't really know much about any of the other artists, though i hear frYars released a single and is still receiving investments via bandstocks.
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Post by helwin tins on Jan 15, 2009 16:59:19 GMT
This may be a silly idea, but could we not have some kind of fundraiser?
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Post by Manly name. on Jan 15, 2009 17:07:03 GMT
This may be a silly idea, but could we not have some kind of fundraiser? i had the idea too but if the album release has gone all communist, i can't help but wonder who would pay for the venue but yeah possibly, i guess a tiny percentage of the bandstocks fund could go towards that, mind you it would have to be promoted to high heaven to prove fruitful.
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Post by verocs on Jan 15, 2009 20:14:30 GMT
what about some kind of raffle? eg you can win handwritten lyrics, drawings etc by Patrick if you have Bandstocks? so people who cant go to special events would feel more involved too.
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