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Post by jay on May 21, 2010 13:31:42 GMT
i couldn't, not really. none of my friends got EMA either, it just wasn't offered to us. i didn't know it existed until two years after i left sixth form.
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yellowbelly1945
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Post by yellowbelly1945 on May 21, 2010 16:16:20 GMT
I genuinely think yellowbelly is a troll. I had to look up in Urban Dictionary its meaning the first time someone accused me of this. I'm no troll. I hope when we all meet at a Patrick Wolf gig / concert (or Leeds Festival if you're going), you'll see that.
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Post by helwin tins on May 21, 2010 17:29:22 GMT
i'll be in bradford visiting josh (cm punk) from the 5th-7th of june!
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on May 21, 2010 19:58:49 GMT
well i never got EMA anyway so fuck y'all. yeah i'm bitter. i got fuck all!!!!! fuck all. then again i used to just get the bus to college and then get a taxi home again so i could play sims instead of falling asleep in chemistry. maybe the reason you didn't get ema was because you could afford to get taxis without it. Exalt. I don't really like the "they just spend it on booze, it encourages people to be at college who don't want to be there and cause shit" arguments against EMA, though there's proportionatly some truth in them. Abuse of a safty-net to stop post-16 education freezing out the poor, does not mean it's not a needed and valued service. Sadly abuse of such measures is rife in society from unemployment benefits to MP's expenses. Spoken from someone who abused EMA in my yoof so I can hardly talk..though I couldn't have realistically done college and a part time job at the time due to my difficulities so I don't feel bad, much like I don't feel guilty about my perchant for shoplifting at this point in my life. Though, the "travel vouchers" idea is an interesting one.
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Post by lastgoodbye on May 21, 2010 20:11:03 GMT
I don't really like the "they just spend it on booze, it encourages people to be at college who don't want to be there and cause shit" arguments against EMA, though there's proportionatly some truth in them. Spoken from someone who abused EMA in my yoof so I can hardly talk.. I know it's not the nicest idea, but I only say it because people who I'm in sixth form with openly admit to it on a daily basis. Obviously it's not everybody. (and a minor point, but I didn't say these people "cause shit", either. I said wasting their own time, ie. going to sixth form for two years for EMA, then going on to get the job/do the training that they were planning on doing all along). But that's not the reason it's not the best system - it's not about the "minority abusing it and spoiling it for the majority" argument. It's just generally a crap system. I know people whose parents have lost their jobs in the last year, but because whether or not you qualify for EMA is based on the previous years credit rating, they don't get any help. Your parents could be divorced, with one earning a small income, and one of them a millionaire, and you could still claim EMA because it's based on one chosen household. Meanwhile, the child of a single mother with a medium income, but with eight children to split it between, wouldn't get EMA. Also, people with rich parents who are self-employed can claim EMA because they aren't technically getting a wage, etc etc etc. It's just a crap system.
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Post by jadeface on May 22, 2010 10:10:12 GMT
I didn't get EMA, I think I was actually eligible (I think only for £10) but my parents didn't want it to affect something (I can't actually remember what, but I think they got like some sort of income for me living there, or something? So long ago) but I didn't mind because I worked 4 days a week. Now that I think about it, I was at sixth form for 5 days a week then worked two evenings and all weekend, yet I somehow managed to have more of a social life than I do now, haha.
Is compulsory education going up to 18? Or is that a maybe?
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Post by husbandwifeheroin on May 22, 2010 10:42:37 GMT
Nope, that's true. Year Sevens who entered Secondary school last September have to stay (at sixth form or a college etc) until they're 18.
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Post by adder on May 22, 2010 12:26:10 GMT
I think that is absolute shit to be honest. Part of what made going to college so good was that it was a much nicer learning environment because you were there of your own choice.
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Post by lastgoodbye on May 22, 2010 12:30:27 GMT
College counts too, it's just staying on in education til you're 18. So like, sixth form in high school, or sixth form college, or ordinary college, etc.
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Post by husbandwifeheroin on May 22, 2010 16:13:15 GMT
I think Adder means that you're still sort of 'forced' for want of a better word to be there. College for me right now is really good because it's full of people who actually want to be there. If I was there by law not choice I have a feeling it would be an entirely different atmosphere.
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Post by helwin tins on May 22, 2010 16:21:20 GMT
At my college there were plenty of examples of stuff like people whose parents were so rich (read: multimillionaires) they didn't need to work, so theoretically had no income and could claim EMA. I just exposed how middle class I am didn't I?
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Post by sarah on May 22, 2010 16:44:44 GMT
GET OUT OF HERE MIDDLE CLASS SCUM
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