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Post by verocs on Jul 21, 2009 23:42:05 GMT
Anyone who thinks glasvegas is interesting should be sancioned disclaimer at the moment I'm drunk therefore dint care who I piss off
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Post by Rhiflect on Jul 21, 2009 23:42:21 GMT
Gutted, Patrick. It does always seem strange that someone who is as big as Patrick is in the 'alternative' world has never really even had a nomination, but still. It wouldn't exactly be an honour to be nominated alongside LA FUCKING ROUX WHO IS SO SHIT LIVE IT'S UNBELIEVEABLE and Glasvegas, who make me want to die. Also, Josh, you're commentry just then made me actually laugh out loud, so exalts
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Post by Lanuit on Jul 22, 2009 0:23:37 GMT
I think Florence And The Machine might win it this year. She seems to be who the press arselick after La Roux. Why the hell are The Invisible nominated? I saw them a few months ago supporting Foals and they were terrible. It was like 40 minutes of the same shit song. Everyone wanted them to stop playing. Glasvegas can be okay but all of their songs song the same because their drummer just hits two drums and can't actually play drums properly. I'd quite like Friendly Fires or The Horrors to win it though. Friendly Fires came out with a really good album and The Horrors managed to break away from their first album and come out with a better second one.
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Post by higsy on Jul 22, 2009 9:03:04 GMT
As someone mentioned above, Anthony and the JOhnsons won years back, with an album completely focused on the fiction of gender, with guests including wainwright nd boy george... . i think pady's comment was the first thing he could blame, to avoid attack on the music. maybe (MAYBE) it was something to do with Bandstocks being involved...hmm. and anywy, it is cursed that award, so patrick should be happy. and if any, WITW should have won. Didnt Eliza Carthy get nominated once... BAT FOR LASHES/FLORENCE to win...win but not die out.. x x
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Post by andy on Jul 22, 2009 19:27:59 GMT
I think that list is piss poor I mean Kasabian? Glasvegas? if you lose out against worthy adversaries that is fair enough but against those? Dunno about Glasvegas but Kasabian's good. Quite great actually. Not many as interesting bands around at the moment and the new album is very solid. I do think Bachelor should belong to the list though, wasn't saying that.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 10:29:42 GMT
also Josh, wasn't BB around for Dog Man Star? And Dog Man Star did better than Suede? I am not sure, ENLIGHTEN ME Bernard played/wrote on DMS, but left the group before it was completed and released. The album did perform disappointingly commercially (when compared to how Suede did at least..) as the indie punters of the day where seduced by the more straight forward pleasures of Oasis and Blur. Also, I've decided Florence and Bats For Lashes jointly win my alternative mercurys. The prize is a trip to J-Wizzle's Love Shack.. I'll get my coat.
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Post by Radio_Dance on Jul 23, 2009 10:30:00 GMT
Because Patrick wasn't nominated my hopes are on Bat For Lashes.
Wait..did I miss something..I didn't realise there was a survey and half the fans said they didn't like it. The general reaction on here was that it was a good album, and what critics? Most critics gave him 3/5 +. Sorry, but misinformation gets me annoyed. I loved his album...maybe we should create a poll. I'd like to see this definitive 50/50 split you're speaking of.
Rant Over.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 10:34:30 GMT
People on this site have a bit of a problem with understanding the concept of "hyperbole" sometimes.
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Post by lastgoodbye on Jul 23, 2009 12:12:06 GMT
Anyone who thinks glasvegas is interesting should be sancioned I fell asleep while Glasvegas were playing once! We curled up on the floor in the corner of the venue and I dozed off. So yeah, I concur. Then the lead guy (Ed?) from Friendly Fires stepped over us on his way to the bar and when I sat up all my friends had run after him. Which brings me on to Friendly Fires, who are awesome live and should win. Unless FATM win, because I think they're the best live act I've ever seen (bar Final Fantasy). I have to agree with Sibz and Johnathan I'm so sorry Florence, I had to smite you for spelling my name incorrectly. I mean it's right smeggin there. God, I'm sorry! Names aren't a strength of mine at all. The worst part is, I went back and checked to see whether your name was spent with an "o" or an "a" while I was typing it, to make sure I didn't get it wrong. Thing was, I'd already written the "John" bit... Sorry
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Post by helwin tins on Jul 23, 2009 12:38:13 GMT
People on this site have a bit of a problem with understanding the concept of "hyperbole" sometimes. I know. What an appropriate name emotionalfreakout has.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 13:43:53 GMT
People on this site have a bit of a problem with understanding the concept of "hyperbole" sometimes. I know. What an appropriate name emotionalfreakout has. Ha. you could be "tersebluntcomment". Florence could "rationalevenhandedsummary". Joeb could "semi-coherentramble" and I could be "fuckjewsandgypsies" Sorted, does just what it says on the tin and dat. (ps. I feel some I should make some sort of linguistic distinction between Florence of woflboarding Last Goodbye fame and the fit ginger posho Florence with her Machine. I have no desire to invite the former to my "love-shack" nor do I have any idea if the latter delivers rational even handed summaries.)
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Post by sickmouthy on Jul 23, 2009 15:38:20 GMT
Some points. 1; I love Patrick to bits and he was a sweetheart when I interviewed him and Owen Pallett assured me in an email ages ago that he's a lovely guy to hang out with but SO MANY PEOPLE I know in the media / music business think he's a complete twat, and sadly his Twitter feed provides a regularly refreshed version of exhibit A in the prosecution. If he's ever going to crossover he needs... not media-training to make him into a dull-ass footballer type who's boring and whatever, but at least a guiding hand. I'll do it if he wants.
2; The Morrisey avatar guy who thinks The Horrors album is more "new" and "interesting" than The Bachelor makes me laff. HAHAHAHAHAHA. If you've never heard Can or MBV then I guess they'd seem "new" and "interesting" but really, it's a nice little album, but it's neither of those things.
3; People who rant and rave about his first two albums being so much better than the last two are nasty little regressive indie suicide pillocks. Maybe. Or maybe I'm just BEING AS UNREASONABLE AS YOU ARE ABOUT THE BACHELOR. I think it's great, and I know lots of other people whose opinions I respect who think so too. I know plenty of people who don't like it, either, but most of them dislike it for (see point 1;).
4; David Icke is interesting but not fascinating.
5; Circumcision - is it barbaric or is it nobody else's business?
6; Yes, Kasabian are the most hateful band on the planet, yes Glasvegas area Happy Shopper Jesus & Mary Chain, yes, La Roux is what Polydor wanted Patrick to be (i.e. mediocre but marketable faux-glam crap), but if you've not heard the Led Bib / Sweet Billy Pilgrim / that folk woman / etcetera etcetera albums then you can't say the whole list is shite, can you?
7; I really liked The Invisible for about a fornight, and then his vocals and lyrics put me off, but essentially F-Ire collective-go-rock as a prospect is EXCITING AS FUCK.
8; Not heard the new Led Bib but their debut was so-so, and I wish Troyka had got the jazz nimonation because their album is fucking wicked and has the best kickdrum sound I've EVER HEARD.
9; How did you guys vote Fordawynne most love-to-hateable?! Just look at all the other little whining nasty little indie suicide pillocks!
10; I ordered the FF album because some people I trust reckoned I'd like it and it's £4 new at Amazon. I also bought two more albums by The Necks.
11; I work with a guy who used to work in marketing for Nationwide when they sponsored the Mercury, and while he personally was delighted that A&tJ won, everyone else involved at Nationwide basically had an aneurysm. Now this could go two ways - it either proves that the sponsor doesn't influence the panel, or else you say "well Barclaycard are 5x the motherfucker that Nationwide is there's NO FUCKING WAY they'd stand for that shit".
12; Michael Owen is a GREAT signing for Man Utd.
13; I once asked Simon Frith if I could be on the Mercury panel. He told me I should contact someone else, and gave me details. I never bothered. Sorry Patrick. I could've helped.
14; People STILL raving about OK Computer! In 2009! OMFG!!!!!
15; Time to stop now.
16; I'd better not get smitten for this by all the nasty little regressive indie suicide pillocks.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 15:55:27 GMT
I dunno if I want to exalt Mr Mouthy or go form a band called "The Indie Suicide Pillocks" now.
Also Michael Owen- a good signing? Really?
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Post by sickmouthy on Jul 23, 2009 16:01:37 GMT
I dunno if I want to exalt Mr Mouthy or go form a band called "The Indie Suicide Pillocks" now. Also Michael Owen- a good signing? Really? He cost fuck-all, he's averaged a goal every other game for his entire career whether he's been starting games or coming off the bench, and Ferguson has excellent past from managing knackered old strikers and making them look awesome - Sheringham, Larsson, Solskjaer to name three - and he offers Man Utd a fox-in-the-box the likes of which they've not had since Van Nistlerooy.
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 16:09:28 GMT
Everyone says I look like Niestlerooy... anyway much as I'd love to piss everyone off by hijacking this into a football discussion.
It's true though.. EVERYONE I speak to outside of Patrick's core fanbase seems to think the man's a wanker, even when I hear praise of his music it's often prefixed by statements like "if you can get past the person making the music/the image/public persona" etc .. I guess he and some of his fans probably like getting that reaction (to a degree) though. Obviously everyone who thinks that is a "conservative" Patrick's new buzzword for anyone who disagrees with him, or perhaps they're homophobes uncomfortable with his "queer agenda"*?
*That agenda in full.. "homophobia, it's a bit rubbish isn't it? You should "battle' against it. Yes I know that is a bit non-specific. Do you like my sparkly hot pants?"
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Post by andy on Jul 23, 2009 16:12:02 GMT
6; Yes, Kasabian are the most hateful band on the planet Whoooaw. That's new o.O
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 16:26:10 GMT
To be fair if Kasabian looked like glitter sprinkled androgynous pixies. I BET more people on here would think Empire was a tuunneee, which much as I dislike most of their stuff.. it is.
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Post by andy on Jul 23, 2009 16:35:37 GMT
To be fair if Kasabian looked like glitter sprinkled androgynous pixies. I BET more people on here would think Empire was a tuunneee, which much as I dislike most of their stuff.. it is. Hah:D Well they got leopard prints and best bandhugs around at the moment! Oh well. if anyone's willing to get over the fact they do not look that, I suggest checking songs(re:new album) like www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuPK6KgSjno - Where Did All The Love Go www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrpAR_5njIk - Fast Fuse www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC4HHTPiWGI - Underdog(love the acoustic version)
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Post by the kalashnikov kid on Jul 23, 2009 16:55:47 GMT
that guy's a douche!
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Post by Lemon Bloody Cola on Jul 23, 2009 17:07:42 GMT
to be honest gotta give'um credit for the manhugs.
Manhugs and leopard print somewhat define the spiritual journey that has been my life.
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