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Post by Sorrow By Nature on Dec 3, 2007 22:22:51 GMT
This may sound incredibly geeky, and possibly futile, but I've started an online petition. I hope that we somehow can get this through to LOOG / Team Wolf and let them know that we in fact want a vinyl edition of TMP. At least some sort of limited edition, printed on-demand should be possible. Such a beautiful album and still, no vinyl? I know at least a few of you would love to own a copy. So, here goes: www.ipetitions.com/petition/tmppetition/I'm keeping my fingers crossed! (Sorry to post this in both PW and Media sections, but I figured it might reach more people like this. Melba, feel free to remove the thread if you find it annoying.)  /t |
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Post by Ed on Dec 3, 2007 22:24:27 GMT
yeah, i agree, i couldn't beleive there wasn't one in the first place
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Post by zicole on Dec 3, 2007 22:25:26 GMT
Signed!
Although there is the single on vinyl...but I agree about the whole album.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2007 22:33:57 GMT
I doubt it will happen, he's on a major label and the CD version didn't sell enough copies to warrant a vinyl release. (One might say the first two albums didn't sell enough to warrant vinly releases either (I forget which one actually did have a vinyl version; was it just WITW?), but that was when he was on an independent label that can sort of cater to more eclectic tastes because its an indie label with less artists to pay for and less focus on reaping back a massive profit.) Yeah I want a vinyl, and I don't mean to piss on anyone's parade, but......well I do really. I'm pessimistic. |
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Post by Sorrow By Nature on Dec 3, 2007 22:38:24 GMT
Umm, The Horrors, who are a fellow LOOG band, had their album released on vinyl, and I can hardly see that one selling any better than PW. Or do they? Both WITW and Lycanthropy was released by Tomlab, WITW is still in stock (I think) but Lycanthropy's been sold out for quite a while, so I guess it's not impossible to sell at least a small amount of copies. As I've already written, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Not hoping for any miracles though. But why give up without even trying?  |
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Post by binglybongly on Dec 3, 2007 22:47:39 GMT
The Horrors' style demands vinyl, in a way, they're that retro, and the singles sold very well on vinyl, plus the album charted at 37 rather than 69. Patrick's singles have never sold well on vinyl and this album hasn't sold well at all, I can't imagine the label taking the risk, especially as it's more of a "pop" style album ("indie" and "rock" sells well on vinyl, pop no) and there is less of a demand for collectors' items.
If you had the slightest inkling of how much it costs to press, warehouse and distribute vinyl, you wouldn't be asking the question. A petition from people who would effectively be re-buying the album is little more than a joke - 100 sales on vinyl wouldn't even cover the cost of shipping them to one shop.
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Post by Ed on Dec 3, 2007 22:54:09 GMT
slightly off topic, sorry - but can you get the WITW vinyl anywhere apart from ebay or on tour?
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Post by Sorrow By Nature on Dec 3, 2007 23:02:34 GMT
If you had the slightest inkling of how much it costs to press, warehouse and distribute vinyl, you wouldn't be asking the question. A petition from people who would effectively be re-buying the album is little more than a joke - 100 sales on vinyl wouldn't even cover the cost of shipping them to one shop. Well, as a matter of fact I've been looking into vinyl pressing costs, and yeah it's terribly expensive, but perhaps, pressing a batch of pre-ordered and pre-payed copies would be a possibility? At least if we get enough people who are willing to invest in it. Do you know if Patrick will be distributing his own stuff when his label's up and running, or will that still be done by LOOG? Tricky stuff, vinyl. Thanks for the input though, miss Broadhurst, it's nice to have someone around who actually knows how everything works. /t |
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Post by Sorrow By Nature on Dec 3, 2007 23:04:58 GMT
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Post by Ed on Dec 3, 2007 23:11:56 GMT
cheers x x |
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Post by Elderberry Fucking Fanta on Dec 3, 2007 23:13:27 GMT
I'm in on this, against all odds!
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2007 9:21:26 GMT
slightly off topic, sorry - but can you get the WITW vinyl anywhere apart from ebay or on tour? They used to do it in Monorail, the record shop in Mono. Lycanthropy, too. Cheerio, Michael. xxx |
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Post by Ed on Dec 4, 2007 11:34:42 GMT
slightly off topic, sorry - but can you get the WITW vinyl anywhere apart from ebay or on tour? They used to do it in Monorail, the record shop in Mono. Lycanthropy, too. Cheerio, Michael. xxx Serious?! Ive never seen it there, although i havent actually been looking for it. will go after my exams -thank you! x x |
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Post by oldgregg on Dec 4, 2007 18:46:30 GMT
The Horrors' style demands vinyl, in a way, they're that retro, and the singles sold very well on vinyl, plus the album charted at 37 rather than 69. Patrick's singles have never sold well on vinyl and this album hasn't sold well at all, I can't imagine the label taking the risk, especially as it's more of a "pop" style album ("indie" and "rock" sells well on vinyl, pop no) and there is less of a demand for collectors' items. ^ This plus the Horrors had the backing of extreme hype and NME. The record label probably thought it was worth taking a gamble on something that loads of people had heard of and was named as "the next big thing". |
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Post by Ed on Dec 5, 2007 13:04:54 GMT
They used to do it in Monorail, the record shop in Mono. Lycanthropy, too. Cheerio, Michael. xxx Serious?! Ive never seen it there, although i havent actually been looking for it. will go after my exams -thank you! x x neither are in mono  x x |
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Post by binglybongly on Dec 5, 2007 20:17:55 GMT
If you had the slightest inkling of how much it costs to press, warehouse and distribute vinyl, you wouldn't be asking the question. A petition from people who would effectively be re-buying the album is little more than a joke - 100 sales on vinyl wouldn't even cover the cost of shipping them to one shop. Well, as a matter of fact I've been looking into vinyl pressing costs, and yeah it's terribly expensive, but perhaps, pressing a batch of pre-ordered and pre-payed copies would be a possibility? At least if we get enough people who are willing to invest in it. Do you know if Patrick will be distributing his own stuff when his label's up and running, or will that still be done by LOOG? Tricky stuff, vinyl. Thanks for the input though, miss Broadhurst, it's nice to have someone around who actually knows how everything works. /t Patrick only has the rights to distribute his back catalogue, unless he gets dropped by Loog. I would think they would have first dibs on any unreleased material pre-TMP, also, as under the terms of yer average contract, an artist releasing "new" material in competition with material released by your current label is very much frowned upon. The way to get TMP issued on vinyl is not to piss about with an internet petition, it's to persuade more people to buy the bloody thing on CD so that he's actually popular enough for the label to inject cash into the campaign beyond tour support. Re-buying the album on vinyl is a priority for so few people and it will not garner sufficient extra sales this late in the game from people who might have waited for vinyl. The average lifespan of an album is 18 months. Most of its sales are in the first nine months and it takes something amazing like a big award (e.g. Mercury Music Prize or a Brit) or a song getting good sync (being picked up for an advert or film) that motivates sales of more than one track for it to get "legs" again after that. It doesn't matter how much money you spend on the campaign after 9 months if it hasn't sold much. A Radiohead-style limited edition discbox only works if you have enough fans prepared to pay the premium in advance and they have them in spades. I can't imagine that TMP has even recouped in the UK (made back what was paid for it in recording, production, distribution, promotion, marketing, advertising, tour support - touring costs money rather than makes it at this level, and who do you think pays the band and the tour bus and the flights?). So after the Shepherd's Bush dates, the TMP promotional schedule pretty much ends and the album becomes catalogue. You wait for the new one and you pre-order it and get everyone you know to pre-order it and if there are lots of advance sales, the label might take a punt on a limited run of vinyl. |
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Post by stationtostation on Dec 5, 2007 20:21:53 GMT
The Magic position isn't really a vinyl album is it?
Its all shiny and digital and what not.
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Post by short words strong verbs on Dec 6, 2007 5:09:15 GMT
The Magic position isn't really a vinyl album is it? Its all shiny and digital and what not. I've bought green vinyl with glitter in it before. Gorgeous and perfectly playable (Like a vista-lite Ludwig!). All I have to say to this thread is "hear hear!" |
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