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Post by mimicry on Jun 29, 2007 0:22:47 GMT
Yes! Boobs are lovely, I even have a set myself.
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Post by arielle on Jun 29, 2007 0:43:37 GMT
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A WOMAN: Evening Primrose Oil by Tori Amos
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Post by Clare on Jun 29, 2007 1:09:04 GMT
Are you applying to Glasgow school of Art? (For some reason i think you're Scottish) If you are then i advise running away. I fucking loathe that place (but not the building, that's gorgeous). I'm considering applying to GSoA (and yes, I am Scottish!); but it's easier to get into Edinburgh College of Art. But the other art schools in Scotland are really nothing to write home about - Edinburgh and Glasgow, those are the two big ones. Oh, I don't know. And Alei: I really hate my breasts too, but like them on other women. I would also like to bind mine. High-five.
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Post by yojimbo on Jun 29, 2007 1:28:34 GMT
Are you applying to Glasgow school of Art? (For some reason i think you're Scottish) If you are then i advise running away. I fucking loathe that place (but not the building, that's gorgeous). I'm considering applying to GSoA (and yes, I am Scottish!); but it's easier to get into Edinburgh College of Art. But the other art schools in Scotland are really nothing to write home about - Edinburgh and Glasgow, those are the two big ones. Oh, I don't know. And Alei: I really hate my breasts too, but like them on other women. I would also like to bind mine. High-five. Why stay in Scotland? I advise Edinburgh over gsa. It's not the reputation of a college or quality of tutoring that matters much in Art based subjects. What matters most is self-motivation and how well you use what is offered to you on the course. You have to be your own hero really. I don't know why i'm giving advice, sorry = s
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Post by Clare on Jun 29, 2007 1:56:06 GMT
I'm hoping to stay in Scotland mostly for financial reasons. Too effin' poor to move that far away; and, if I stay in Glasgow, I have a decent chance of scoring myself a nice place with no rent.
I know a couple of people who study at both places, and they both say they really enjoy it. The problem is really getting in. Edinburgh would be easier to get into, at the end of the day; but I'm reluctant to go. Not sure I'm entirely ready to pick up sticks and leave my home city.
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Post by Mellifluous Poetry on Jun 29, 2007 8:47:31 GMT
I like this thread. And I'd probably end up unsatisfied trying to describe what it means to be a woman. Universally. It means a lot? Different things in different places. I think it should be remembered still that the rights we have here aren't even close to the (quite nonexistent) ones in other places in this world. I liked Hannah's (? the moustache one) post. Hmm. I was cutting my hair off and dressing like a boy for some time. When I was 14 and kinda... rebelin'. But it didn't work for me, it just set this enormous need to know how can I be a woman and me at the same time. Not to be only a woman, if you get what I mean. I was kinda disgusted by the little ladylike-acting teenage divas at school and how they were "being women", I guess. Gahh. Blah I don't know if this is understandable. MAYBE I WAS BEEN OPPRESSED BY THE PATRIARCHY. To think if I was a woman I'd be _just_ a woman. I think I'm slowly getting rid of thinking that way though Now it feel easier to accept that I'm moody and that I have a little voice inside of me that shouts: "go out and have babies!" (probably when I'm ovulating big laughs and hijinks). I think somehow being a woman is living in cycles. Then there's the fat! I used to want to be as skinny as the skinniest boys in da town and of course it was not possible. I'm by no means obese, but it got me quite awhile to realise that being a woman also means that you have, naturally, more fat cells than men More thighs and arse and tummy. Yeah. I quite enjoy being a woman, even though I probz will never be a proper lady.
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Post by abolishconfusion on Jun 29, 2007 12:45:01 GMT
I like this thread. Then there's the fat! I used to want to be as skinny as the skinniest boys in da town and of course it was not possible. I'm by no means obese, but it got me quite awhile to realise that being a woman also means that you have, naturally, more fat cells than men More thighs and arse and tummy. And boobs! We have more boobs than men!
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Post by mimicry on Jun 29, 2007 13:16:44 GMT
Gender as a socialized concept? Yay or nay?
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Post by abolishconfusion on Jun 29, 2007 14:08:38 GMT
I would probably say yay to that.
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Post by allison on Jun 29, 2007 17:18:45 GMT
yes.
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Post by blake on Jun 29, 2007 17:50:17 GMT
Gender as a socialized concept? Yay or nay? I heard that statement recently and it's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. Males and Females are different from each other genetically and psychologically, no matter how they are "socialized". Neither is "superior" but thats just the facts of the matter. It's a really silly falsehood. Ignoring all logic and actual facts in order to present something that feels all nice and fluffy while giving off the image of a big nasty oppressor running society pushing us all off into little boxes mmmaann. It's in short the sort of shit that makes me as weary of left wing thinking as I am of right wing thinking.
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Post by indiequeen on Jun 29, 2007 18:04:51 GMT
a tip for you: Get into the life drawing class at the art school. It apparently improves your chances in getting in by a lot, will improve your drawing and will probably come in handy for your project. To me, to be a woman is to be a person with a vagina. I don't really like this question to be honest, considering every woman, man etc. is different. I probably just haven't thought about enough though. my college just announced a series of life classes for a pound for like, 4 hours i cant wait actually even though i cant draw very well
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Post by Clare on Jun 29, 2007 18:07:59 GMT
Wow, okay, if I could pay a pound for four hours, I would actually go. Unfortunately, I know of no life drawing classes near by. I will check out the local colleges and hope for cheapity cheaps.
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Post by Lauren on Jun 29, 2007 18:17:13 GMT
Gender differences definitely come down to brain composition. But, society affects how we react to these differences.
Being a woman is....sadly, it currently seems to be a sex object.
What I personally think it is to be a woman is to celebrate life and beauty. At least, that is my ideal.
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Post by bluearrangements on Jun 29, 2007 18:23:37 GMT
Gender as a socialized concept? Yay or nay? urgh
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Post by mimicry on Jun 30, 2007 18:19:04 GMT
Just a question, is all.
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Post by bluearrangements on Jun 30, 2007 18:27:13 GMT
Oops I didn't mean urgh at the question specifically, I was going to respond properly but I was too lazy to explain myself, and 'Urgh' was what came out...
I'll say Nay and leave it at that
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Post by margot on Jun 30, 2007 18:43:53 GMT
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Post by catherine on Jun 30, 2007 20:18:24 GMT
I looked at female self-portraiture for my Art A.S Exam piece (the topic we were initially given was "Freedom"). I looked at Cindy Sherman and how she presents different female stereotypes and roles, as well as Elizabeth Vigee LeBrun and Frida Kahlo.
In fact, I have a set of photos for which I dressed up as Frida Kahlo (complete with monobrow...) and Cindy Sherman in her "Centrefolds" series. I also had a look at the Guerilla Girls and Tracey Emin for more references.
If you can, try getting hold of a book called "Seeing ourselves" by Frances Borzello, it's really really useful for anything to do with women in art, and it is superbly written.
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Post by margot on Jun 30, 2007 20:40:14 GMT
Oh, and PJ Harvey. That's my idea of what makes a woman.
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