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Post by blake on Apr 22, 2007 19:44:10 GMT
Yeah I was about to suggest the whole Kate Bush "give up touring" scenario but to be honest that would be very tough. Let's remember Kate Bush had a number one with her debut single and was a big mainstream seller for the majority of her career. I don't know how it would work for Patrick unless he found a mega supportive and sympathetic indie label, and even then making a living would be tough?
EDIT- sorry I forgot to quote thats a reply to Binglybongly.
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 19:46:39 GMT
Whatever happens, I wish Patrick all the success and happiness in the world. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Post by oldgregg on Apr 22, 2007 19:47:06 GMT
I don't think I've ever been so shocked. Like, literally, speechless.
Is this really because of this thread?
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Post by admin on Apr 22, 2007 19:52:26 GMT
Perhaps giving up the gigs and media stuff is a way of stopping the hand holding him down? Patrick's always been more of a studio-happy artist. I don't know many people who would be happy with some of the situations he's been in on stage and in interviews of late. Cutting loose from the things that you're "supposed" to do as an artist may well be the making of him. Kate Bush only toured once. I don't think I could manage the schedules people like Patrick get - from city to city, interview to interview, situation to situation. That said, Patrick gigs have been some of the most joyful experiences of my life and he knows the difference he's made to me personally and professionally. And what she said. Yours, Michael. xxx
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Post by Ed on Apr 22, 2007 19:55:38 GMT
well, if thats the case and he continues making records thats not so disheartening
x x
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Post by birdwhistle on Apr 22, 2007 19:56:32 GMT
Mr Michael Bush, I hate to say this, but... can you possibly relay any of this? When we're all in such frightful stupid hideous panic... good god.
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Post by binglybongly on Apr 22, 2007 19:56:48 GMT
Yeah I was about to suggest the whole Kate Bush "give up touring" scenario but to be honest that would be very tough. Let's remember Kate Bush had a number one with her debut single and was a big mainstream seller for the majority of her career. I don't know how it would work for Patrick unless he found a mega supportive and sympathetic indie label, and even then making a living would be tough? EDIT- sorry I forgot to quote thats a reply to Binglybongly. Many electronic artists don't tour. Yes, it's hard to sell massive amounts of records if you don't, but then maybe that's the point. He's worked his arse off touring and opened up to the media more and the impact on record sales has been minimal. Perhaps it's not worth the hassle. Perhaps it's better to concentrate on the art, which does make him happy, and not deal with all the extraneous stuff. There's nothing to stop him releasing videos and other things that allow him to communicate with people and control the means by which he is presented to the world. There's nothing to stop him making all different kinds of music now and not be tied into the scenester thing or the cute disco boy thing or the indie thing or the troubadour thing. Just, like, get on with it. It can be a positive thing. In fact, I believe that it will be. Strip away what he's wearing, who he's friends with, who he's in relationships with, what his hair is doing, what kind of genre he's supposed to be, what his mannerisms are, how he speaks to people or doesn't and you're left with amazing music (which gets talked about less than all the other shit). He got into this to get his work out there, not his life. That's the point...
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 19:57:04 GMT
I hope that is the case.
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Post by oldgregg on Apr 22, 2007 19:58:05 GMT
I really don't know whether to believe any of this. But the writing seems so truthful. ??
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 20:00:26 GMT
I really don't know whether to believe any of this. But the writing seems so truthful. ?? That's why I'm not getting my hopes up, because I did that with the libertines and suffered a serious break down (not that this has anything to do with the libertines).
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Post by binglybongly on Apr 22, 2007 20:02:47 GMT
I really don't know whether to believe any of this. But the writing seems so truthful. ?? That's why I'm not getting my hopes up, because I did that with the libertines and suffered a serious break down (not that this has anything to do with the libertines). Please don't let what bands and artists do control your life like that. It's certainly not their intention that you should break down or not based on their decisions. I'm resisting the urge to quote Oasis here, because they suck so hard, but you know what I mean. Your own life should be bigger than that.
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Post by Marcus on Apr 22, 2007 20:04:46 GMT
Your own life should be bigger than that. Aye. Be your own hero. Be your own saviour. And all that. Haha, completely went in the face of what you just said. So I'll just stop quoting Lycanthropy .
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Post by blake on Apr 22, 2007 20:04:56 GMT
Mr Michael Bush, I hate to say this, but... can you possibly relay any of this? When we're all in such frightful stupid hideous panic... good god. Yeah I don't know how much if any access to Patrick you have Michael but it would mean a lot if you could pass on my apology, not as a fan wanting more music out of someone. But as a human being genuinely sorry for hurting the feelings of a human being who's given me a lot. In fact I think that goes for a lot of us.. Patrick should do whatever's best for him, I don't want or expect anything out of him. I'm just really sincerely sorry.
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 20:07:20 GMT
That's why I'm not getting my hopes up, because I did that with the libertines and suffered a serious break down (not that this has anything to do with the libertines). Please don't let what bands and artists do control your life like that. It's certainly not their intention that you should break down or not based on their decisions. I'm resisting the urge to quote Oasis here, because they suck so hard, but you know what I mean. Your own life should be bigger than that. I don't mind oasis........ (I'll probably get murdered for saying that).I don't mean that bands make up my life, it's just that I had nothing decent to listen to/ no good gigs to go to which made me a bit jaded.
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Post by birdwhistle on Apr 22, 2007 20:08:50 GMT
Some of us are weak-hearted and sensitive to the horrible symbolism of all this. I can't separate this from the memories. It's like figures fading out of photographs. And I really don't want him having the impression that he's not spread tidal waves of happiness out there in the world.
I'm so dropping all pretenses. I'm not ashamed of how much those gigs have meant to me. I know I don't know Patrick the person, and never will, but all the fragments of him he's thrown out here I've appreciated, and I always wanted to show him my gratitude. Now it's like he's seen exactly the opposite.
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Post by oldgregg on Apr 22, 2007 20:10:13 GMT
Yeah I don't know how much if any access to Patrick you have Michael but it would mean a lot if you could pass on my apology, not as a fan wanting more music out of someone. But as a human being genuinely sorry for hurting the feelings of a human being who's given me a lot. In fact I think that goes for a lot of us.. Patrick should do whatever's best for him, I don't want or expect anything out of him. I'm just really sincerely sorry. You seem to genuinely think you were solely the cause of this. But I really doubt it - I don't think people make such serious decisions about their futures based on one thread on a postboard. Think of the many many threads praising him and his music (a few started by you I'm sure . You can't blame yourself anyway. For a while I've been wondering how Patrick, who seemed so fame-shy two or so years ago, will have been coping with the sudden media interest and rigous interviews etc. If this indeed turns out to be true, it must have been building up for a certain amount of time.
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 20:17:52 GMT
Some of us are weak-hearted and sensitive to the horrible symbolism of all this. I can't separate this from the memories. It's like figures fading out of photographs. And I really don't want him having the impression that he's not spread tidal waves of happiness out there in the world. I'm so dropping all pretenses. I'm not ashamed of how much those gigs have meant to me. I know I don't know Patrick the person, and never will, but all the fragments of him he's thrown out here I've appreciated, and I always wanted to show him my gratitude. Now it's like he's seen exactly the opposite. I feel exactly the same, but I get binglybongly's point and I have learnt from the past: Life should go on, music is music, it is not life. Yes, it touches us and it means alot, but if Patrick is not continuing with his career then we should get on with things. It's ok to be sentimental and to grieve the loss of the career of such an amazing musician, but we should allow ourselves to move on and put things into perspective.
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Post by yojimbo on Apr 22, 2007 20:20:16 GMT
oh no no no, people are accepting this far too easily. I refuse to do that. However immature that may be.
Even if Patrick gives in, I'm not going to stop posting in the forum every day and promoting his music to every person I know, and I bet all of us are going to do the same. Patrick's one of the best things to happen in music in my lifetime, hell, he's one of the best things that has happened in my life. I'm not going to simply sigh and proclaim 'it was good whilst it lasted', only to move on. heck no. Move on? fuck off. I’ll remember this one for the rest of my life, and his music will remain at the top of my collection as a testament to how meaningful what he’s accomplished is. Now, I'm going to sulk about this until I realise I won't be able to get my own way, which may take a while.
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Dear Patrick,
I wish you the happiest life and bestest wishes possible. That you accomplish your dreams, receive thousands of cuddles, have plenty of sex, fall madly in love, eat far too much, and laugh until you get stitches every day for the rest of your life .
Laters, x
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Post by oldgregg on Apr 22, 2007 20:22:16 GMT
Dear Patrick, I wish you the happiest life and bestest wishes possible. That you accomplish your dreams, receive thousands of cuddles, have plenty of sex, fall madly in love, eat far too much, and laugh until you get stitches every day for the rest of your life . Laters, x Amen.
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 20:22:21 GMT
Your signature is amazing ;D
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