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Post by christy on Apr 20, 2007 22:47:05 GMT
wow even aside of what he did regarding zach that was seriously horrible. his whole rant about god and everything.... Yeah. When you have opinions on things like religion, it's fine to voice them, but you can't do it in a way that might offend some people. You gotta have consideration, you know? But then again he was drunk and therefore not thinking properly. Which is why, like Oats said, I do feel sort of bad that he's got this whol drunk and bad moment on footage and on the internet for all to see. Everyone seems to be worrying a bit about him, with this and that new blog... I mean, it's not a LOT of evidence, so we can't be sure, but just in case I'd like to say that I really really do hope that he is happy and alright, and if he's not, I equally hope that he feels better. very true, he is really, really drunk. i guess he just went off on how no one is better than the other and LMAO he acts like such a control freak with zach. ahhh i hope patrick is all right as well. he might just be burned out from touring :[[[[ i hope this sort of attitude and drunken actions stop soon.
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Post by frilly on Apr 21, 2007 5:43:08 GMT
Sorry, I'm going to throw more shit on the shit on Patrick pile cause I need to vent and bitch. I really love his music (obviously why else would I be here) but he has always irritated me in interviews from the sappy, self-conscious, "I love the birds and nature and would love to just lie beneath the stars on a boat and be away from blah blah blah" cutesy babble to this drugged out oh so trendy glitter whore hanging out with Kelly Osbourne and all these obnoxious scenesters. I just try to ignore most interviews with musicians I like cause I end up getting disappointed. Eeeee I didn't want to say anything but I feel the same way exactly. This is a man in need of a publicist.
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Post by frilly on Apr 21, 2007 5:43:33 GMT
That is, Patrick needs a publicist, not you, pinchofhope.
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Post by Ed on Apr 21, 2007 14:16:22 GMT
Can anyone tell what Zach is trying to say into the mic?
Its all such a damn shame, i remember patrick saying (was in in a blog) about how much he liked zach, his drumming ability and the way that he doesnt just go for it but goes with the louds and softs of a song very well
x x
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Post by madeline on Apr 22, 2007 13:57:49 GMT
Oh yes i'm another one utterly disappointed from the interview.
But not for the fact that he rants on about religion or why people hate America.
But for the fact that he'd like lots of sex and a boat! Surely a creative imaginative genius such as P.Wolfy would think of something more interesting then that! I mean thats probably everyones dream. except for maybe omgz1one who'd probably much rather do the safety dance with peasant midgets from the 80's.
Saying i'd love to eat ten marshmallow men and have it off with an attractive playboy bunny with lobster claws is probably much more interesting.
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Post by hark on Apr 22, 2007 14:17:12 GMT
Pfft he should be able to do what he wants.
I mean, he can sex who he wants to. He can leave his friends behind.
'CAUSE HIS FRIENDS DON'T SEX AND IF THEY DON'T SEX WELL THEY AIN'T NO FRIENDS OF MINE!
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Post by enfantterrible on Apr 22, 2007 15:23:54 GMT
Sorry, I'm going to throw more shit on the shit on Patrick pile cause I need to vent and bitch. I really love his music (obviously why else would I be here) but he has always irritated me in interviews from the sappy, self-conscious, "I love the birds and nature and would love to just lie beneath the stars on a boat and be away from blah blah blah" cutesy babble to this drugged out oh so trendy glitter whore hanging out with Kelly Osbourne and all these obnoxious scenesters. I just try to ignore most interviews with musicians I like cause I end up getting disappointed. Eeeee I didn't want to say anything but I feel the same way exactly. This is a man in need of a publicist. agreed. i've been really dissappointed this year - i thought him being popular would be great - but he managed to ruin it completely by being pretensious and rude.. now a lot of people who i know used to like him just laugh at him and take the piss... its kind of upsetting that he seems like such a dick when he makes SUCH GOOD MUSIC.. i suppose you can't have everything as for the interview - dear lord... ABSOLUTELY HAMMERED as well... what a load of shit ('scuse me) - he comes across as SUCH AN IDIOT - "there is no one above me" i wonder if he realised what state he was in/if he was being interviewed. if'd i've been there i would have a) switched the camera off b) put him into bed c) probably smacked him one as well EDIT: having watched the firing - i think that Patrick was kind of worried to begin with - when he went up and asked, but then zac said something to him and then he went ape shit. i laughed though when Patrick said "he is such a shit".. because that sounds so childish that it must be a joke - but then he threw the cymbal at him. q: did zac push the cymbal at zac first.. slapping is for girls not boys, Patrick
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Post by dietorelle on Apr 22, 2007 15:42:34 GMT
"he seems like such a dick"
just out of curiosity, is that only based on this footage or on other interviews as well/actual meetings?
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Post by enfantterrible on Apr 22, 2007 15:47:25 GMT
"he seems like such a dick" just out of curiosity, is that only based on this footage or on other interviews as well/actual meetings? curiousity killed the cat - just generally really... this interview especially, and he was rude to one of my friends in the street, even on stage - its half magic and half pretensiousness.. its just a shame - but frankly it doesn't really affect me because i don't have to know him and i don't know if i would even if i was offered the chance.. i don't know.. maybe i did go a little bit far apologies to anyone who got upset/knows him and thinks he is alright
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Post by resurrectart on Apr 22, 2007 16:02:33 GMT
Eeeee I didn't want to say anything but I feel the same way exactly. This is a man in need of a publicist. slapping is for girls not boys, Patrick I don't think the gender really matters. Anyway, I bet it gets really stressful being popular now. He seems like a bit of a loner sometimes. Remember, he is the guy that takes little vacations by himself to a cabin, where he basically gets his own food, by growing it and such. I know I certainly couldn't handle people following me everywhere and it wouldn't be good if someone stuck a micorphone in my face when I was drunk.
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Post by resurrectart on Apr 22, 2007 16:07:03 GMT
It's interesting how many people have painted a fairytale image of Patrick. Just as interesting that I haven’t perhaps. I often have done things similar with musicians in the past. I don't have much care for the drunk interview. However if I was at that performance. I'd have felt pretty deflated and possibly walked out. It was all a bit tragic, with them so drunk and a drummer possibly on something. Unfair on Patrick that the footage is being spread around like it is though. He works hard enough to entertain people all round the world, and this will linger around and could continue to hurt some of his fans faith in him. Real shame that. Wonder if Patrick would be surprised if he read peoples reactions. Really though, I don’t think it’s much of a big deal. Yes, I agree with you totally. I think people are overreacting a tiny bit. Shit happens, No one's perfect, and all those cliches.
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Post by Xteenuh on Apr 22, 2007 16:08:05 GMT
I heard he was really quite nice to the fans in Paris, and that he stayed there right after the show and took time to say hi to people and everything... maybe it depends on the day you see him, haha.
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Post by resurrectart on Apr 22, 2007 16:12:54 GMT
Moods certainly do affect people.
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Post by mynameisHughGrant on Apr 22, 2007 17:04:43 GMT
everything before he threw the cymbol was excusable. bearing in mind he was drunk, i suppose everything after it was too. As to whether patrick puts on a facade....well we know in a way that patrick wolf is his alter ego don't we. it's only part of who he is. even if patrick was an irritable, rude person all the time i'd rather go on believing him to be a glittery, intelligent, frindly musical genious, like when people believe in God even if God doesn;t exist it brings out the best in them so why should anyone end the belief. And i know there's times i come off as rude or arrogant even though I really hope i'm not. all really good musicians are a bit odd anyway. oh well!
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Post by patrickwolf on Apr 22, 2007 18:12:59 GMT
dear all... I should never have read this.. I really shouldn't. I dont think when I was 16 and dreamt of releasing records there would ever be so much crazy speculation about the person I am and that you want me to be. I have become so tired of this behaviour, sometimes I wake up and have to do six hours of interviews before doing a show, then go straight to bed to sleep a couple of hours to fly to a new country to be cross examined in the same way.. I dont know what is left of me sometimes, some mornings i dont know how i get on the flight or even open my mouth to sing that night. If I choose after working since the early hours of a day and then pouring my heart out for an hour and a half that I really have nothing left to give.. that I cannot be a fake politician and sign autographs for an hour.. does this make an asshole? because my drummer was causing arguments within my road family, taking sedative drugs before an important show in a city i really love, so much so he could not play the music I wrote, the songs that I have survived on in the last six years... because I had to slap him to see if he was even CONSCIOUS on stage.... the fact that the only thing that got any reaction out his corpse happened to be made of metal.. because all of this.. does this make me seem like I was on cocaine, or on some power trip? I was pissed off because this was just one more musician or businessman taking my good nature and generosity for a ride... trust me, that moment onstage was the end of a long line of bad behaviour that it would unfair to go into in public. Yes I was drunk, but It was one oclock in the morning after seven hours of interviews.. i had been running on about four hours of sleep a night for about two weeks... such is the joy of promoting a record. Anyway, I was having FUN until that moment. So was the rest of my band until we realised my drummer was taking the piss out of all of us and our hard work. I dont work with liars and I dont work with thieves.
I dont want to have to share this information with you but so many seem so interested...
I have made a decision, my final concert will be this november, a retrospective with an orchestra in London. I am not sure wether there will be anymore public communications after that, Infact I am pretty sure there will be none. Of course, this has nothing to do with my drummer.. but a creative clock is ticking and I have many many projects to be creating with my time left on this earth. I hope to share my last shows with you this year.
I have enjoyed making and performing music for you all, I have enjoyed trying to give a little hope and inspiration to the world. But I feel, especially when I read all this and I go about my days that I have failed. Im not seeking sympathy or empathy, god, I have to go find something I love and am inspired by in this world again. Many of you will never know the amount of work and emotion that goes on behind the scenes for me and many of your other favourite artists or musicians and why should you? I wanted to give you disneyland.. I wanted to give you a world at the back of your wardrobe, now im just feel a fool for bothering. I am in berlin today, i know I should never have read this, I dont know who any of you are, just strangers talking amongst themselves, and I wish I was stronger minded today, but i have to take enough bullshit from other parts of the world for what I do and who I am without getting it from here.
Im going off for a walk now.. clear my heart and head. Thanks to all you with the intelligence to see past the superficial chaos of the media and the various ridiculous personalities and characters that have been painted around me over the years, the problem is, unfortunately many of you will never get to know the truth, but many will still speculate, and play chinese whispers with interviews and opinions from the friend of a friend. This is nothing new to me, unfortunately, luckily I have always had a close set of dear friends that will always know me for who I really am, just as I do.
If I can give any advice, is, if anything, just listen to the music, watch the videos, read the lyrics, see the artwork, these are my communications, not others.
still love x patrick
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 18:14:56 GMT
Is this really Patrick?
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Post by hark on Apr 22, 2007 18:15:11 GMT
^^Who wants to ask Loog to ask Wolf face if this is for realzzz?
PS: i don't think so... you'd have to be a fuckin' masochist to go on your own forum. or Owen pallet.
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Post by idrinkmascara on Apr 22, 2007 18:16:08 GMT
Ask!
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Post by patrickwolf on Apr 22, 2007 18:16:42 GMT
yes it is.. michael will know by my email address.. signing off now. Take care everyone xx patrick
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Post by hark on Apr 22, 2007 18:18:31 GMT
I believe in this as much as I believe in Philly spread truly being the food of the God's.
ie. nay much.
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