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« Reply #100 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:04pm » | |
Oh shit, I just helped drive one of my favourite artists into retirement, well that doesn't happen every day 
First of all (I'll imagine I'm addressing Patrick here (even though he may well not read this back, or care) I'm a fairly intelligent person who has been around a decent amount of artists and creative people in his life. So I am by no means ignorant to the amount of blood, sweat and utter anguish that comes with creating. Especially to one who is tied to the commercial world of promotional tours and endless interviews. I'm utterly grateful and in awe of not only the talent and inspiration involved in creating the music that I enjoy, but the graft and determination it takes to get it out into the wider world.
However you talk about people creating their own perceptions of who you are. The reason I was so critical of the footage we saw here is for that exact reason that I DON'T create an idolised image of Patrick Wolf in my head. That's why I reacted in a unbiased fashion based on the footage I saw. I saw a human being that I have a lot of respect and admiration for (despite not knowing anything about bar the art he puts out into the world), act in way that I would have disliked no matter who the human being happened to be. I could have pharsed things in a less inflammatory way and I'm very sorry about that. But what you read from me, was an EMOTIONAL reaction, just like when you got pissed of at Jake and wrote that post just then, we often as human beings don't stop to think about the implications of the things we say based on a gut reaction.
I'm sorry if I came across as ungrateful or if I've caused any hurt of disillusion. I can't help but blame myself personally for this, as I was the first person to speak out and voice my distaste here, possibly starting the groundswell of negative public opinion.
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« Reply #101 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:08pm » | |
if you are a fool for bothering, then so am i.
my world is dark again.
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« Reply #102 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:13pm » | |
Quote:if you are a fool for bothering, then so am i.
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i know how you feel, im sure many of us do.
i just cant believe it still, to think how enriched my life has been because of the albums and the shows, and i know they will always remain, but ... im just SO gutted
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« Reply #103 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:15pm » | |
there's no way i can express my regret at having started this thread. i don't know what to do or what to say. i just feel hollow.
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« Reply #104 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:17pm » | |
its not your fault!! you just posted a link, if you didnt, someone else would
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« Reply #105 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:18pm » | |
wait... what just happened? patrick isn't going to make anymore music????? this can not happen!
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« Reply #106 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:20pm » | |
No!
No more gigs and interviews.
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« Reply #107 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:20pm » | |
it doesn't feel that way when you're in this position though. patrick, please, you can't think you failed. this was just one stupid meaningless thread amoung thousands of others in which thousands of people expressed their gratefullness for everything that you do and the magic it has helped them to feel. don't quit because of us, please.
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« Reply #108 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:21pm » | |
I hope all of you who had the opportunity to attend a live performance enjoyed it. Whereas the rest of us will have to keep imagining.
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« Reply #109 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:21pm » | |
well, i can deal with no gigs and interviews... but the thought of no music almost killed me.... i jsut sent him a myspace message begging him to not leave us lol
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« Reply #110 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:22pm » | |
wow, i feel so terrible about this news. And I am not sure if you will read this but:
i honestly don't feel that you should give up. But if it is what you truly feel is best for you then go for it.
Meryl said a lot of what I wanted to say. However, listening to the music has gotten me through some tough times. The music has made me happy. And as lame as this sounds, whenever I was sad I would listen to the songs and they would cheer me up so so much, I am pretty sure that that is why my last.fm count is in the thousands, it proves how sad I get. Oh I'm pathetic. But the music takes me to a happier place, to another world where all my sadness just dissipates.
You have inspired so many good things in many of us here, and you have made us feel more happier than you can ever imagine. Even though it may seem that some of us are ungrateful, you can rest assure that more of us feel fully indebted to the joy you have shared with us.
And I know, once one makes a decision and announces it, one can't change it so easily, but I beg you to strongly reconsider.
If it's worth anything, I have flown across the Atlantic to see two of your shows, just to be in that wonderful setting, to be happy at a show, to be happy with a room of people who love and adore you. This may sound awfully strange coming from a complete stranger, but you, as well as your music has given me so much joy and I am devastated to know that it will come to an end.
And I feel stupid for being such a girl and crying because her favourite artist is calling it quits, but bah, no one can know how much joy it has brought me and to know it will come to an end feels like a part of me is dying.
I'm sorry for the post but I thought I'd share my feelings.
ps. I love the people whom I've met through this board and ultimately through the music.
xoxo
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« Reply #111 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:26pm » | |
Quote:its not your fault!! you just posted a link, if you didnt, someone else would
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No if anyone's going to take the "blame" for this it should be me. I was the one who started with the more vitriolic criticisms. It's pretty telling that if you read back to the part of the thread when the backlash was in full swing quite a few of the posts started with "yeah, I agree with Josh" While it wasn't ONLY me that caused this damage I believe I played a bigger part than most.
I've hurt a lot of feelings in my time with my unrestrained honesty "bluntness" call it what you will, but this is probably the biggest fuck up and the most damage my mouth has caused.
I'm really sorry everyone, I really am.
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« Reply #112 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:30pm » | |
josh, although scathing comments were made, there is no way that this is your, or indeed the forum as a whole's fault. Sure it had something to do with it, but this cant be the sole reason for such a big decision
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« Reply #113 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:31pm » | |
I don't think a decision to quit performing would come out of reading this thread alone...
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« Reply #114 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:31pm » | |
I'm not sure I'll even be able to ever play Patrick's records again without wincing.
I honestly love The Magic Position so much.
Cautionary tale kids, think before you open your E-mouth.
No of cause I'm not saying if Patrick has decided to quit music isn't me or this thread alone thats caused it (even I'm not that self important). But I put my hands up and accept the blame for my (bigger than most) part in this mess.
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« Reply #115 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:34pm » | |
Not to make Mr Wolf sound melodramatic, but perhaps he'd be better off thinking things through (not to say that I don't respect his decision if he's sure it's right for him). Maybe he should wander off to the place he mentioned in his last Myspace blog, away from all outside interactions. After all:
Let no foot
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Let no hand
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His motto has helped me tremendously for the past few years. Perhaps he could revisit it?
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« Reply #116 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:38pm » | |
Honestly, I feel that a lot of us share the blame... (if any) although I sort of feel (now) that things were heading this way even before this incident.
Not sure if you'll actually be reading this but...
Thank you Patrick, for helping me through these last few years of my life... through hard times and good. I sincerely hope you'll reconsider... pouring your soul into everything you do and get criticised for it is a hard path to walk down, and one an artist is always forced to. But we all love you for putting up with it!
I feel really empty and lost at the moment, so sorry if this is totally incoherent. I think I'll be leaving here soon, for an indefinite future. Thank you all...
/t
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« Reply #117 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:40pm » | |
"Why can't we overcome this wall? Maybe it's just because I didn't know you at all....."
I keep sighing for some reason.
I'd just like to say that Patrick inspired me when I was only 13 to make my own music. And to continue playing my violin at home, despite the excruciating pain it gives me.
It's probably no one's fault, I guess people do what they want to do and nothing can stop that.
I propose that everyone has a toast to Patrick: THANK YOU FOR THE MUSICxxx
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« Reply #118 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:40pm » | |
Perhaps giving up the gigs and media stuff is a way of stopping the hand holding him down? Patrick's always been more of a studio-happy artist. I don't know many people who would be happy with some of the situations he's been in on stage and in interviews of late. Cutting loose from the things that you're "supposed" to do as an artist may well be the making of him. Kate Bush only toured once. I don't think I could manage the schedules people like Patrick get - from city to city, interview to interview, situation to situation.
That said, Patrick gigs have been some of the most joyful experiences of my life and he knows the difference he's made to me personally and professionally.
That said, dude's not dead. Pls not to be mourning.
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« Reply #119 on Apr 22, 2007, 7:44pm » | |
Quote:Fuck.
Patrick, don't tell me it's us driving you to that.
Seriously... anything we say about you when drunk shouldn't be damning of your career. I know it's ridiculous that we're all so full of judgement but we would be about anyone. And so much of it is out of pure worry, and distaste for the way the interview was handled by those chipper opportunistic people at MisShapes.
You couldn't have read this all at a less opportune time. The rest is such a slew of absolute cut-throat adoration for you, despite how it annoys some of the board. You know your fan-base are some of the most loving and understanding people you could ever hope to have rallying behind you, and I know this, because I have met them and talked to them and found so much wonder in them.
Shit, I hope you can read this and know how much everyone loves you, so deeply. I know if you're intending to retire from your musical world then you will, but don't do it on our account, and don't come away from this with such a bad taste in your mouth.
God I feel horrible. I can't believe this at all.
EDIT: And just to reiterate: YOU HAVE made us happy, okay? Directly and indirectly your music has managed to cast everything in the past year in this brilliant neon glow, for me. You have no idea. Here I am embarrassing myself in front of all these peers but I've done that before. Thanked you tirelessly. You know this. I just hope you're humanly self-conscious enough to want to see this reaction, and read what I'm saying, and reconsider, cripes... |
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I really don't know what to say, my head is spinning and I really feel like crying. This post sums up everything my head is thinking at the moment.
Please, Patrick, I feel so bad for contributing to this thread if it's made you feel like this. You've brought so much joy to everyone on this forum and your shows mean so much to anyone who's been to one, I understand you feel you should stop playing live, but please, please, reconsider. You HAVE NOT failed.
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